Episode 62

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Published on:

11th Apr 2024

Is Do the Right Thing as vital and important as ever? (Rebroadcast)

Today we present our original 2-part episode on Do The Right Thing, the 1989 classic film by Spike Lee. (Originally released August/September 2022)

As you should well know, "Fight the Power" by Public Enemy features prominently in the film, and if you're listening to this in mid-April of 2024, you should know that Chuck D from Public Enemy will be in conversation with our man DJ ARM 18, Andrew McIntosh on April 16th at Northampton Community College. Information on that event is at northampton.edu. Your HHMCs JB, BooGie and me, DynoWright will be there. Come through and hang with us! 

Topics discussed:

  • This film forces you think and feel something, and is still fresh and relevant
  • "Fight the Power" and how it came to be part of the movie
  • A cavalcade of stars and soon-to-be stars, plus expert cinematography (by Ernest Dickerson) that enhances the themes of the film
  • Is Sal racist?
  • Could Sal and Mookie continue having a relationship after all that happened, or are they done?

Also check out:

"Fight the Power" music video by Public Enemy

Credits

Hip Hop Movie Club is produced by your HHMCs JB, BooGie, and DynoWright. Theme music by BooGie. Follow @hiphopmovieclub on Instagram!

And remember:

Don't hate...liberate!

Transcript
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Hello, listener. This is DynoWright.

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Today we present our original two part

episode on Do the Right Thing.

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The 1989 classic spike Lee film.

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As you should well know.

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Fight the Power by Public Enemy.

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Features prominently in the film,

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and if you're listening to this

watching this in mid April of:

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you should know that Chuck D from Public

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Enemy will be in conversation

with our man, DJ ARM 18,

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Andrew McIntosh, on April 16th

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at Northampton Community College.

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Information on that event

is at Northampton.edu.

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Your HH emcees JB, BooGie,

and me DynoWright will be there.

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So come hang with us.

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Part two follows immediately after part

one of this episode.

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Thanks for listening. Yo!

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Bring it!

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C’mon!

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Welcome to Hip Hop Movie Club where three

old heads put their old heads together.

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The vibe on some of the most memorable

or forgettable hip hop theme

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movies of all time.

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And here's M.C.

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with your HMCs Boogie.

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JB and Dino right?

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Come on.

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Season three, episode

one Do the Right Thing

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part one.

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We packed so much into this discussion

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that part two will be out next week.

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Written,

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directed and produced by spike

Lee, released in:

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and featuring a cavalcade of stars

and up and comers who became superstars.

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In this episode, we'll answer the question

is this movie as vital

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and important as ever?

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Do the Right Thing depicts 24 hours

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of the hottest day of the year

in the Bedford-Stuyvesant section.

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Brooklyn,

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its historically black section

of the borough, with exceptions

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such as the Korean convenience

store and Sal's Pizzeria,

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which has been situated there for the past

25 years.

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Sal's pizzeria is the epicenter of rising

racial tensions between young black men

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in Bed-Stuy and Sal and his sons, Vito

and Pino, while Vito is more open minded.

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Pino hates interacting

with the neighborhood residents,

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primarily based on their skin

color and cultural norms.

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Mookie is a black pizza delivery man

working for Sal for a few years

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and dealing with the racial epithets

and trying to find a balance

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between earning a living as hostile work

environment,

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maintaining his relationship

with his girlfriend and son,

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and dealing with his friends

who have far less patience for racism.

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Underlying racial tensions come to a head

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on this sweltering day,

with tragic results.

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Like one

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on one black and.

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So, Boogie, you want to kick us off

on, your view of do the right thing?

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Yeah.

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So Do the Right Thing is a classic spike

Lee movie.

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It's one of those movies

that is meant to facilitate discussion.

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talks on a lot of poignant topics

that still exist to this day.

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So that's one of the things

that I've always appreciated about spike.

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He was never afraid to, he's never afraid

to put his views out on film.

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But I saw this movie

for the first time in middle school.

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You know, one of our teachers

got special permission to show it to us.

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And, you know, it facilitated

some discussion and got us thinking.

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And it touched on a lot of things that,

we saw in our neighborhood because it

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pretty much mirrored the Bed-Stuy,

neighborhood and do the right thing.

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But the first thing that really popped out

for me was the intro,

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my favorite song from my favorite hip hop

group of all time, Fight the Power.

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Like instant classic.

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We are introduced to Rosie Perez,

as you know, dancing

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through the intro, just kind of getting

ready for what was to come.

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every time I see that Detroit,

it just gives me chills because it's

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such a great call to basically fight

the power, as the chorus says.

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I mean, we got some classic interactions

between,

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the late Ossie Davis and Ruby Dee.

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The chemistry between them

is undeniable, of course, but

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it spills over really well into the movie

as they play off of one another.

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One of my favorite actors of all time

is actually, do the right thing.

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Giancarlo Esposito, who plays bugging out.

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This guy is so versatile.

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He plays in a lot of shows and movies.

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In any role that I see.

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I mean, he steals the show.

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He's a he's a great, phenomenal actor.

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and then there's another list of up

and comers

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and people that, if you see them now,

they're like big A-listers.

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So I mean, I think the movie

is a really good one by spike Lee.

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Like I said in it's very enjoyable

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for me because like I said, it

facilitates discussion.

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Anyone who watches the movie

definitely has to get something out of it.

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You can watch the movie and walk away

from it, not feeling anything.

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You're going to feel something.

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And I think that's what

I probably appreciate the most about it.

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It makes you think.

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Yeah, good analysis there.

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It it makes your blood boil

because of all the racism that's depicted.

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It's sickening because

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we all trying to get along well,

trying to get along society.

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And you see just hatred

that's deep seated.

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just to piggyback off of your comments.

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Fight the power is amazing.

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I love that song is played

throughout with Radio Raheem.

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That's the only song

he really plays on his boombox.

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I was watching some of the bonus features

with this, and Chuck D

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was contacted by spike

Lee to create an anthem for this movie.

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So he knew about the script,

he knew what was all about,

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and Chuck D was like,

all right, you need an anthem.

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And he put together a few verses, and

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I think spike Lee was the first cut.

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Wasn't good.

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He sent it back

and it wasn't even called Fight the Power.

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And what he did eventually get

was what you hear in the movie.

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And it's funny,

you never hear the full song

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because it wasn't

even complete at that time.

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So they put snippets of the song in there,

and it was super powerful.

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And then Chuck D and the rest of Public

Enemy completed that song.

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Amazing anthem

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introduction of Rosie Perez, I believe was

Martin Lawrence's first movie as well.

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Yeah, we'll get into a lot of the other

actors and actresses, but

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Sam Jackson,

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before he became Samuel L Jackson as Love

Daddy, the radio DJ was was awesome.

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He was like, objective observer.

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He's a DJ talking to the to the town,

seeing everything that goes on.

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And he's a cool character as he always is.

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And then there's

so many other great characters in here.

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One of the thing

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you mentioned, Ossie Davis and Ruby Dee,

who had been married in real life.

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the funny thing with that is he plays

this character called The mayor.

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Bit of a town drunk, but he's he's wise.

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He has a scene where he saves a boy

from getting hit by a car.

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And Ossie

Davis mentioned, in one of the interviews.

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But is that the relationship

you had with Ruby Dee,

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who plays mother sister

who watches over the neighborhood?

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It paralleled

almost a relationship in real life.

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Not that he was in town drunk,

but he said that she looked down on him

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a little bit early on in the relationship,

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like she didn't really have trust in him

and and see his virtue.

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And then she,

she kind of grew to love him.

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So I thought that was really a nice touch

that spike had bringing them into the

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into the film together.

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Yeah. Very nice. Yeah.

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All right.

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What are your, initial impressions?

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I had never seen this before, which is

crazy to think all these years later

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I hadn't seen it, but it's really

it really is fresh and relevant now.

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And I think important for me

to see a movie like this.

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But the beginning, when it's

more of a feel good kind of comedy,

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it's really funny.

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There's a Jerry curl alert. That.

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You're that you want to talk about someone

was cleaner than the Board of Health.

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Like, this is really funny stuff,

and I'm so glad I got to see this.

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And we love Robin Harris.

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If you've listened

to any of our episodes, yes,

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you'll see that he has some great lines.

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If Tyson dreamed of my ass,

you'd better wake up and apologize.

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You're $0.30 away from having a quarter

the holes out of donuts like,

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man, if he

had lived, he would have been a mega star.

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Absolutely.

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And it's kind of also funny to see that.

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His. Name in the movie.

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I don't know if I should even repeat it,

but name the movies over.

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Is so raunchy. It's electric, Willie.

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I mean, these.

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People will say

slick. Slick, they. Really.

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There's two

phallic references in this thing.

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So just one, but two.

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yeah.

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His dialog is one of the three corner men,

as they call it.

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Yeah, Coconut City and MLW.

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Now, those guys are great.

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I mean, I could listen to an entire it's

almost like a barbershop routine.

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Yeah, just sitting on the corner

and they're just.

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They're just.

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Shooting the breeze

and talking about pertinent topics though.

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But it's like kind of like, oh man.

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And they're jealous of

of the Korean convenience store.

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It's like, oh,

these people just got off the boat

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and they have a store

within the past year,

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and they're going back and forth saying,

that's not fair, but

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it's because we're black and

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Robin has the characters like,

knock it the heck off.

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You always say how these big dreams

where's, you know,

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go get a job, dude, do this.

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I can give you money.

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And he's like, It's

Miller time, I'm out of here.

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You know, it's. Kind of low level setting.

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These guys, from just just complaining

about their their lot in life.

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But it's so funny because even, like,

in that conversation, you know,

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there's humor to those conversations,

but there's also some truth to it as well.

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as you know, a lot of documentation

is becoming public now.

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We are realizing that there actually

was some redlining that did occur

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in African-American communities and also

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where banks, made it hard or,

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you know, they denied to get loans

or made it impossible or hard

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to get those loans to open businesses

and neighborhoods, whereas

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even though they're considered

an immigrant coming from another country,

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you know,

you do have the Chinese and the Koreans

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that will come over

and they're able to get those businesses.

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Like I said,

I've seen it in my own neighborhood.

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You know, there's so many

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there's been a couple of shops and stores

that have open in any neighborhood,

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whereas people that live

there aren't able to.

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Or if they do get one,

it doesn't stay open that long.

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So I mean, there's spike taking the scene.

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Put some humor to it, but put a little bit

of truth in there as well.

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Yeah, I think this movie was a great mix

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of real hardcore,

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real talk racism.

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But again, there was some comedic,

definitely some comedic aspects of it.

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I mean, I like the dialog.

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I'm a huge sports fan,

so even like the little I love this Spike

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Lee's where the Jackie Robinson jersey,

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which is also symbolic,

breaking the color barrier in baseball.

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But there's also the commentary

where they're going back

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and forth, who's a better pitcher

under Roger Clemens?

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And that's awesome.

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That was a huge debate in the mid

in the mid 80s and late, late 80s.

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Yeah.

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yeah.

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There was just some

some really good dialog and

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the stuff about

Mike Tyson that you mentioned earlier.

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Right. And that was great.

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And then, like Mike Tyson.

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But the.

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The whole cinematography

was great to the closeups.

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This the slow motion scene

when you have the white cops

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roll up and it's like, you know,

what a waste.

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It was so powerful.

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Again, it's the hottest day of the year.

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You can you can almost feel the heat

through the screen.

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They use.

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You see the folks sweating.

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You see the almost like red hues.

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now what's very intentionally right,

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the red hues to me, that warmth.

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and I was watching the extra scenes.

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You know,

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they filmed this over, like a ten week

period right there in Bed-Stuy,

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which is great that they filmed it

right there.

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It wouldn't have come off as authentic.

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It was filmed, like on a Hollywood set.

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there was like a

one week where they said that rain street,

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it rained the entire week,

but they had to stay on schedule.

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So even though it's raining, they,

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they they did the lighting in such a way

that it looked bright and sunny.

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So they had to do,

some extra special effects.

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There.

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So the way that was shot, a close ups,

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you get that feeling.

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You see Rosie Perez,

you know, dunking her head in the

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in the water to cool off.

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even the the romantic ice cubes scene.

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yeah, it was like that.

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I mean, it's just like you can feel that

heat and again, that the trip that added

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to the racial tensions

that we see throughout the film.

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Yeah, yeah.

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There's cinema. Like you said,

the cinematography was spot on.

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I mean, spike is

a master of his craft. And,

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you know,

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he shoots the way he has the movie shot,

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those, those effects

that he has has on his films.

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It just gives you

a feeling of actually being there,

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and it kind of enhances

a lot of the dialog or, you know,

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whatever's happening, he just kind of

pulls it out a little bit more.

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I definitely appreciate his movies,

though.

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Yeah.

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Shout out to Eric Ernest Dickerson, Eric.

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Dickerson.

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Not Eric Dickerson, says the Ernest

Dickerson, the director of photography.

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Yeah, this is a character.

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You get to meet a lot of different

characters, like bugging out.

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Obviously

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he's got a vendetta.

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He wants.

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He's really dead set.

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That cell should have photos

of black people on his quote unquote

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wall of fame, you know, and they're all

just Italian-Americans. And,

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that's one thing.

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there's,

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again, a lot of different cultural groups

in there.

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There's the Korean storeowners, and

a lot of people are just nasty to them.

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You know, maybe it's out of jealousy,

it's out of hatred.

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Then there's the Latino group,

and then there was the scene

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where, you know, there's the boombox,

Radio Raheem, his boombox, and,

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almost like the salsa music.

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And there's,

like, battling back and forth.

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So it's shows the whole different mix

and everybody's

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got their own,

you know, viewpoint and prejudices.

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And again, on the hottest day of the year,

it all bubbles up at the end,

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right?

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You know.

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So I wanted to kind of like maybe debate

a couple topics here.

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Does Buggin Out

have an actual point in that Sal

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should have photos of black people

on the wall in his pizzeria?

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what do you guys think

wants to jump in there?

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Yeah, I think I see both sides of it.

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I think that, in a sense, broken out

does have a point.

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You know, Sal's Famous

pizzeria is in the middle of Bed-Stuy.

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you know, the people that frequent his

his pizzeria

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shop are, you know, black people.

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So, I mean, I kind of see what Buggin Out

is coming from the.

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Hey, you know,

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you're making money off of us, you know,

why can't we have some people that look

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like us?

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I want a wall.

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But on the flip side of it,

I also see Sal's point.

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You know, it's his establishment.

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You know, he's worked hard to.

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As you said.

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He built it with his hands

from the ground up, you know.

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So he's proud of

you know what he's establishing?

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He wants to honor,

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you know, the people that have come before

him or the people that he, you know,

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he he, he's entertained

by or look up to. So,

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I mean, this is wall in his building,

I think, you know,

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at the same time he should have the same

who goes on his wall.

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So, I mean,

I think it's Buggin Out was a little

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it was a very radical in a

in his approach.

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But on the flip side, like,

you know, Sal was

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he was a little irritable

and a little agitated as well.

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So it's kind of one of those things,

you know, I see both sides of it

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done. All right.

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What do you think? Well,

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I get Sal's point

and I get buggin outs point.

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But buggin now could just go to

a different pizza place and, I don't know,

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I mean, Bed-Stuy is not that small.

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Like,

there's other pizza places, aren't there?

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But like 51% with Sal, like it

says, pizza place,

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you can do whatever he wants with it

since you can go if you go somewhere else.

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I mean, maybe the pizza isn't as good

somewhere else, which is the

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which is the problem for,

for for for bugging out.

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But probably the best business sense

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was for South to put some pictures

of black people on there

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because it makes your customers happy,

then you know you,

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you'll get more money

and more business out of it.

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I'm with you guys.

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Sal's not obligated to put any pictures.

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He doesn't want to. On the wall.

It's his restaurant.

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It's a private business.

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Well, he worked things out in the public,

but it's not like.

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It's not like a publicly stockholder

shares, you know?

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So he owns a business.

He can do what he wants to do.

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however, like you said,

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it's it's approach.

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It's a whole approach.

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bugging out was

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a little bit too demanding,

but then again, there's no reason for Sal

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to shout at him, call him a chill maker,

come out with a baseball bat.

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It's like, oh, yeah,

all right, now you're escalating it right?

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You're you're,

it's becoming incendiary right now

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because now you're you're being offended

that he's even asking that.

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And now you're bringing a baseball bat.

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So they both they both were in the wrong.

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I mean, I tried to put myself in

Sal's shoes.

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If I had a specific restaurant

over that ethnicity,

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and if someone asked that, I would try

to diffuse the situation and just say,

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even if even if you're you're

somewhat sugarcoating, like,

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I'll take that into consideration. Know

something like that.

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Not like you troublemaker.

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You start cussing

and bring out a baseball bat.

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It's like, I understand your point, but

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it's not going to happen.

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Or I'll think about it even if you want.

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You know, there's there's

definitely other ways to handle it.

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Yeah.

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Like he probably could have said, hey,

you know, all right, how about you give me

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five people

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who you think might might be up there

and and I'll think about putting them up.

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Something like that. Right.

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Yeah. That's a solution. Not just.

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Right. Throwing grenades. Right.

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How about put rookie's picture up

there as an employee of the month?

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How about that. Right.

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Yeah I think Sal,

would you, propose to that?

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You know, what's

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ironic is John Carlo Esposito,

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who who plays the role of Buggin Out,

he's half black, half Italian.

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I mean. This is pretty funny.

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Is it pretty funny that he, he,

you know, he's he has the he's causing

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the big divide and,

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and, he,

he actually has the heritage of both.

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He actually mentioned one interview.

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I said he didn't really fit in

in real life.

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He didn't really fit in with the Italian

crowd because they really look at them.

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But again,

he didn't fit in with the black crowd

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:

because his name is John Carlos

Zito, right?

386

:

He actually got along with a lot of Jewish

folks that were like his best friends.

387

:

It's just ironic.

388

:

but he said that in an interview

that I, that I saw so

389

:

and just to talk about Giancarlo,

like I said, versatile roles.

390

:

He played gusts in Breaking Bad

that people may know him from.

391

:

And in Mandalore, he's played a big role

in The Mandalorian Live, which is good,

392

:

and tons and tons of movies,

so he's super talented.

393

:

I watched him mostly in homicide

those two years he was on Homicide

394

:

Life on the Street. Nice.

395

:

Right,

396

:

great.

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:

Three.

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Three.

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:

Three. Three.

400

:

Three.

401

:

Other debate topic

I want to bring up this Sal.

402

:

Right.

403

:

Would you consider

Sal a racist? Yes or no?

404

:

And why do you think Boogie.

405

:

Yeah, I would consider him racist,

406

:

but I wouldn't consider him

like overtly racist.

407

:

I think what might make Sal racist

is not necessarily him as a person,

408

:

but just the indoctrination of what

he's been taught or how he was raised.

409

:

But he actually was very toned down, like

he he spoke to some people with respect.

410

:

And even when, when the mayor came in

and asked if he needed some work done,

411

:

he, you know, gave him a broom

and gave him some pay,

412

:

let him go outside the front of the store.

413

:

You know,

414

:

Jade will come by and he you know, he

would have lengthy conversations with her

415

:

even to a certain extent with Mookie.

416

:

Like he didn't

he wasn't overtly racist towards Mookie.

417

:

That was just a a manager

employee dynamics between the two of them,

418

:

you know, like he didn't,

you know, say much about Mookie

419

:

that was could be considered,

you know, racially offensive.

420

:

It was more so like, hey, do your job

or are you are you being late?

421

:

Are you hanging out?

422

:

Are you playing around?

423

:

Like most managers

would ask employees about

424

:

if they would go on for a while

and came back, you know, or

425

:

they had a tendency to to wander off or,

you know, things like that. So,

426

:

I don't think he was

427

:

overtly racist,

but I think towards the end,

428

:

when the bugging out in Radio

429

:

Raheem situation escalated, now,

430

:

was that word thrown out in anger,

431

:

or was that word thrown out because that's

how you always felt about them?

432

:

You don't really know,

433

:

you know.

434

:

So certain situations.

435

:

What do you think? Done it right.

436

:

So Sal. Racist.

437

:

Yes. But the the thing that helped me

sort of thing through this,

438

:

I don't know if you've read, How

to Be an Anti-Racist by Ibram X Candy,

439

:

so I'm oversimplifying it,

but it basically says either you're racist

440

:

or anti-racist

moment to moment, action to action.

441

:

And so if you're not actually

442

:

doing something anti-racist,

then you're being racist.

443

:

So because definition of racism

is one of either actively confronting

444

:

racial inequality or allowing it

to exist by action or inaction.

445

:

So when

446

:

Sal gives a broom to the mayor

and it's the money to

447

:

to sweep up the front, he's

being anti-racist.

448

:

But when and now it's getting in its face,

449

:

and then sells you the N-word,

now he's being racist.

450

:

And so it's useful for me

to have this lens to answer this question

451

:

about whether Sal's a racist.

452

:

And so the short answer is, yes,

but he's pushed towards it more at the end

453

:

when the aggravation continues

and he does racist things.

454

:

That's a good viewpoint.

455

:

for me, Sal definitely is a racist.

456

:

And you can tell by some of the language

457

:

he uses, some speak,

and he may not be quite as overt.

458

:

I mean, in the beginning of the movies,

I'm going to hurt somebody today.

459

:

All right?

460

:

Okay. Wait.

461

:

Why are you going to hurt someone? Right?

462

:

You're already having a bad day also.

463

:

And I saw spike.

464

:

Spike Lee actually helped me

kind of decipher this a little bit further

465

:

when he was asked a question like. This.

466

:

He said, these,

467

:

these people,

these people grew up on my pizza shop.

468

:

These

469

:

like, it's it it's a very degrading term

just to kind of classify someone as,

470

:

you know, these people like almost like

they're lower class because they're black.

471

:

Yeah. Other.

472

:

Right, right.

473

:

These people and also,

474

:

Pino has one son, played by John Turturro.

475

:

Super racist.

476

:

Using the N-word was like, this is like,

this is like planet of the apes.

477

:

This is ridiculous.

I hate this. He's always used the N-word.

478

:

He's nasty to monkey.

479

:

again, that doesn't come out of thin air.

480

:

It's most like, ingrained

by by his father, even though his brother

481

:

Vito, much more open minded,

482

:

was cool with Mookie.

483

:

I don't think he uttered a racist remark.

484

:

He was actually trying to come,

you know, to get Pino to see the light

485

:

that we should all be equal.

486

:

But yeah. No, I think,

487

:

Sal, played by Danny Aiello,

488

:

was definitely racist.

489

:

And again, it comes out like,

is it like you said, Danny?

490

:

Right.

491

:

It's like you're either racist

or anti-racist and if something escalate

492

:

and then it comes out, I was like,

all right, this was in there.

493

:

This was this was this.

494

:

You may have tried to bottle up

a little bit, but,

495

:

you know, that's that's the way you are.

496

:

So I mean that that's my thought on it.

497

:

Right.

498

:

Okay.

499

:

What do we think

of Radio Rahim's character?

500

:

So if you guys all recall the movie

listeners

501

:

here, I mean, he's this big, hulking guy.

502

:

And primarily

he's just holding his boombox,

503

:

blasting Public Enemy's Fight the Power

that's in it and just super loud.

504

:

And even when he goes in every store,

he does have that one little soliloquy

505

:

where he has love and hate on his,

forefinger rings

506

:

and he has,

you know, talks about it like that. But

507

:

what do you guys make of his character?

508

:

Was he was he educated? Not educated?

509

:

You have a point.

510

:

You know, unfortunately, he was a tragedy,

511

:

you know, killed by the police brutality

at the end there.

512

:

What's your take on it?

513

:

Right. For him?

I couldn't get a good read on him.

514

:

Yeah, that's a good question

because so many times as I've watched

515

:

the movie,

I've never really given that much thought.

516

:

but I think that Radio Raheem

was a polarizing character

517

:

in the community

because everybody knew who he was.

518

:

And and it was not necessarily

because of what came out of his mouth,

519

:

but it was because he always walked around

with a radio.

520

:

In this instance,

he was playing Fake the Power.

521

:

But, you know,

522

:

he probably played other music as well

on other days or other occasions. But

523

:

I think that the fact that everybody knew

524

:

who he was, he was like a larger than life

character in the neighborhood.

525

:

They never really gave any information

about any type of occupation

526

:

or anything that he did.

527

:

So we don't know whether he, you know,

worked or not or what

528

:

he did or what his likes and dislikes

were other than the radio,

529

:

which is which is kind of ironic, but

530

:

I think that he did have some issues

just based off

531

:

of how he interacted with the Koreans

when he needed to, to buy some batteries.

532

:

You know, there was some, some extreme,

533

:

rudeness,

534

:

lack of better word.

535

:

But he was very, very,

536

:

out of pocket with them.

537

:

And I would never talked to anyone

like that.

538

:

And, you know, they're trying to help you

whether you you like them or not.

539

:

I mean, you're in their business

trying to,

540

:

you know, purchase

some batteries from them.

541

:

Like, there's don't need to belittle

anyone in the customer service industry.

542

:

So anytime I see stuff like that,

I cringe a little bit.

543

:

So in that aspect,

I didn't really like him in that instance,

544

:

the whole scene

545

:

with him and bugging out, confronting Sal.

546

:

I don't know if you necessarily agree

with bugging out or if he was just there

547

:

just to egg him on or

548

:

or what he his role was there was because

it was primarily bugging out idea

549

:

to go there to confront Sal, but

he's just kind of, you know, tagged along.

550

:

Maybe he had those feelings on

you don't really know.

551

:

But, you know, unfortunately,

it goes to show sometimes it's it's better

552

:

to not follow blindly into a situation

553

:

because sometimes there's

tragic results in them.

554

:

And it's just he lost his life,

unfortunately.

555

:

But yeah, like I said,

I've been trying to figure out

556

:

can't really necessarily

clear pinpoint on him.

557

:

so, you know,

I'm open to your feelings on it as well.

558

:

Yeah.

559

:

I mean, for me,

he was a little bit militant, actually.

560

:

Right. In my opinion.

561

:

And when Buggin Out approached him,

you know, let's boycott Sal's

562

:

because, again, he doesn't have

the pictures of black people on the wall.

563

:

I think he was happy to join the cause.

564

:

He was overtly, I guess, trying to impose

565

:

his culture,

onto others with the music and

566

:

super disrespectful to the Korean,

567

:

you know, dropping the mfa's

and this and that.

568

:

I don't know,

maybe he was kind of a lost soul,

569

:

looking to latch onto something

and then bugging out gave him the right.

570

:

So I think that's what I'm there.

571

:

Kind of like maybe he was a little bit

wayward in the winter there.

572

:

He latched on to

what bugging out was talking about.

573

:

He's the one that, you know,

in that confrontation, he pulled

574

:

Sal over the counter

and started attacking him.

575

:

You know, after, obviously, Sal destroyed

576

:

his boombox, you know, with multiple hits

with the baseball bat.

577

:

So, yeah, I mean, spike

Lee mentioned something in interview

578

:

too, is like,

there were a lot of people like that.

579

:

This is how it was in Bed-Stuy.

580

:

There were people walking around

with Boombox Loud,

581

:

and they were just listening to it,

and it was frowned upon by a lot of these,

582

:

old school folks.

583

:

So it was definitely a source of conflict.

584

:

I mean, that's my take. There.

585

:

It. Right.

You have anything to add on Radio Raheem?

586

:

Yeah.

587

:

So I think Radio Raheem is my least

favorite part of the movie.

588

:

I felt like there was not enough character

development with him.

589

:

Maybe that was the point.

590

:

Maybe the point was there

are these characters in any in any block.

591

:

And that's the point of this is a person

with a boombox that plays music really

592

:

loud, is very literal

593

:

and visceral, that it's fight

the power coming out of his his boombox

594

:

and confronting Sal as if hip hop himself

was loudly demanding to be heard.

595

:

You know, this is 1989.

596

:

Still, hip hop is not is still young man.

597

:

But aside from the love and hate soliloquy

he has, like,

598

:

we don't really know anything about Radio

Raheem other than he's really big.

599

:

You got a giant boombox

that's like proportional to its size,

600

:

and it's cause

the rent walks around his boombox all day.

601

:

We don't know what he does like.

602

:

We don't know what his motivations.

603

:

He's he's mean to the

the convenience store owner is like,

604

:

what was this all about?

605

:

And then for him to die at the end

is like the, the great tragedy of the end.

606

:

I wasn't quite sure.

607

:

Like what there is a message

here in the entire movie,

608

:

but we didn't know enough about radio him

to care whether he died or not.

609

:

I mean, we do care

610

:

because he's because of the way he died,

but like the person himself.

611

:

What's the real part of the tragedy

that he died.

612

:

Right. So I was struggling with that.

613

:

We didn't know enough about Radio Raheem.

614

:

Maybe we're supposed to, but I felt,

you know, had this movie been maybe

615

:

15 minutes longer, we could have, like,

really known the deeper tragedy of this.

616

:

But, you know, let me let me flash forward

to just a couple years ago

617

:

with George Floyd, right,

to get a little bit deeper.

618

:

It doesn't make it,

you know, just because Radio

619

:

Raheem may have not been

a super upstanding citizen.

620

:

Right?

The life is still super valuable, right?

621

:

I see a lot of people trying to nitpick

George Floyd, you know, his character.

622

:

Right.

And I think that's totally wrong. Right.

623

:

Because then even if you give a tiny ounce

of justification,

624

:

there's no there's no reason at all.

625

:

So George Floyd was what was he was like

stealing cigarets or something like that.

626

:

It's like, oh,

he had a, criminal record like I.

627

:

That really irks me when people start

628

:

digging into

629

:

these victims of the police brutality.

630

:

And so, I mean, how poignant was it

that spike Lee chose Radio Raheem?

631

:

So what we don't really know about

632

:

and his life is no less

valuable than anybody else.

633

:

so, you know,

we shouldn't really be concerned

634

:

about really Radio Raheem past.

635

:

It was a violent act

that went way too far.

636

:

They knew they were choking him

with the nightstick.

637

:

And it's a it's a tragedy nonetheless.

638

:

The tragedy I connected to is Eric Garner.

639

:

Yeah.

640

:

Because that was in New York.

641

:

And that that chokehold. Yeah.

642

:

but yeah, like

I think I think that was the point too,

643

:

like you said,

that it showed him as a flawed person,

644

:

you know, throughout the movie,

you know, even when his interaction

645

:

with the with the Koreans

and how he, you know, just disregarded

646

:

everyone and just blasted his music

whether he wanted to hear it or not,

647

:

to show that

despite it all, he was still a person.

648

:

And he yeah, he deserved due process that.

649

:

He didn't deserve to die. Right?

650

:

Not to die on a street by a chokehold.

651

:

Yeah, yeah.

652

:

That was weird.

653

:

Say, ironic.

654

:

Lee, the person who played the officer

Rick was Rick Aiello.

655

:

Danny Aiello, son.

656

:

in real life.

657

:

And, I also one of his other sons

658

:

was actually a stunt stunt double for him,

I think in the fight scene.

659

:

Yeah.

660

:

So a couple of Danny Aiello sons

661

:

were in it as well,

662

:

right?

663

:

This debate topic is

664

:

what do you think of Sal's interaction

with Jade, Cookie's sister?

665

:

Did he really have a crush with her?

666

:

Because he was obviously extra sweet

667

:

speaking with her,

totally out of his character?

668

:

do you think he literally

had a crush on her,

669

:

or was he just doing that to dig on

670

:

on Mookie,

or what was your take on that whole thing?

671

:

Like.

672

:

There's there's layers to that,

to that interaction.

673

:

I think it might've been

674

:

a bit of a bit of both of those.

675

:

I think that he actually may have found

676

:

Jade to be attractive,

and he might have actually liked her.

677

:

she was very pleasant, very respectful.

678

:

She seemed like

she had a sweet personality.

679

:

She seemed like she took care of Mookie,

despite Mookie being older than her.

680

:

And I think even when she interacted

681

:

with Mookie, I think everyone kind of

knew, you know, Jade's,

682

:

you know, relationship with Mookie

is the one that kind of kept him on track

683

:

because he was a little wayward,

684

:

you know, having a child

that he really took care of

685

:

and had a somewhat rocky relationship

with Tina, his, his girlfriend.

686

:

So I think that Sal might have saw that

and said, you know what?

687

:

She seems like a real sweet person.

688

:

You know,

I'm glad to have conversation with her

689

:

because she is a nice black girl.

690

:

Not like any of these other ones

around here, you know.

691

:

So that might be part of it.

692

:

And he might have also noticed that

693

:

Mookie got irritated

694

:

by their interactions and said,

you know what?

695

:

I know he just irritated by us.

696

:

I'm going to jab at him.

697

:

Then there's another layer

698

:

that spike

probably intended to put in here as well.

699

:

More subtle is the fetishism.

700

:

You know, there's been instances

throughout history of

701

:

the fetishism of black women

702

:

too numerous to even document comments,

even go over that,

703

:

you know, that just occur

throughout history where we know

704

:

black women were substituted to various

degrees of sexual assault, etc..

705

:

And I think that

706

:

no one spike, he probably was putting that

claim a little bit on that angle,

707

:

as well as saying that, you know what,

we know that this guy is racist

708

:

in any degree.

709

:

He's racist.

710

:

You know, here's a here's

a black woman here

711

:

who's attractive, and let's kind of

712

:

show how he,

713

:

you know, even though we know

he doesn't like these people,

714

:

if he had a shot, would he take it?

715

:

So I think that's kind of my take

on a whole, the whole interaction between

716

:

Sal and Jade, I think it was a dynamic

of all those three things combined.

717

:

And I like it.

718

:

What do you think? Dynamite?

719

:

Yeah, I think you got to.

720

:

Right.

721

:

Sal calls Mookie, like, assigned to him.

722

:

And so by extension,

maybe Jade is like a daughter to him.

723

:

But you can't ignore, like you

said, Boogie the fetishism and happens

724

:

and throughout history and these racial

dynamics and and these power dynamics too.

725

:

So, I think that's all it's all in there.

726

:

And, you know, at that point in the movie,

727

:

Sal was still like,

not not totally like off the rails.

728

:

And so I think

729

:

most of it came from a good place,

730

:

but I think some of it

did not come from a good place.

731

:

I think Spike's leaving it open

for interpretation intentionally.

732

:

I mean, I see Sal's as a racist.

733

:

I don't think he, you know,

I don't think he would pursue Jade

734

:

in a in a physical way.

735

:

However,

I kind of think maybe subliminally

736

:

he was taking a dig

at Mookie is like, hey, like I'm

737

:

talking to your sister,

738

:

and I know that really got monkey's go.

739

:

And then, I think that's kind of maybe

what set him off, because I was thinking

740

:

in the final scene with the riot

after Radio Raheem was killed,

741

:

I was surprised

that Mookie was the one that threw

742

:

the trash can through the window.

But again,

743

:

I think maybe that was the straw

that broke the camel's back for Mookie.

744

:

It was like all right,

I'm putting up with this racial stuff.

745

:

Black man was just killed

746

:

because of his interaction here

at Sal's South.

747

:

So, you know, everything

just kind of boiled over.

748

:

Yeah.

749

:

and and I think that may have been,

the final straw.

750

:

Yeah, that was definitely straw.

751

:

That broke the back, though,

752

:

because he did.

753

:

He didn't even say anything.

754

:

He just walked over, didn't say a word.

755

:

Yeah.

756

:

Just boom boom.

757

:

Just set off right there.

758

:

Yeah.

759

:

It come on.

760

:

Do the right thing.

761

:

Part two.

762

:

When we left off,

we were debating some key questions

763

:

in Spike Lee's classic 1989 film, Raised.

764

:

Right.

765

:

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.

766

:

And that final debated question

767

:

might seem a little outlandish,

but do you think there's any possibility

768

:

that Mookie could continue

any formal relationship with Sal

769

:

after all the events that occurred?

770

:

And you saw how it ended?

771

:

He came back for his money.

772

:

Boogie came back for his money.

773

:

He said, you owe me money.

How much are you? 250.

774

:

Sal crumbles up $100 bills,

throws it at him

775

:

nasally, shouting, oh, he's rich now!

776

:

And cursing left and right.

777

:

you know, they have an exchange there.

778

:

Do you think they could have any type

of relationship after what happened?

779

:

What do you think?

780

:

It's a tough one.

781

:

Yeah.

782

:

Because initially off,

783

:

off the top of my head I'm like,

no, it's a done deal

784

:

and there's no going back.

785

:

Yeah.

786

:

I don't, I don't,

I don't think that they could

787

:

even if Mookie went back to even apologize

788

:

like, Sal is very rigid,

789

:

like he's old school, rigid.

790

:

like he's like the type of person

that will hold a grudge.

791

:

You know, I don't think that even

if Mookie apologized, I don't think so.

792

:

I would get over it.

793

:

And even if you tried,

794

:

you know, you got the son

795

:

Pino.

796

:

That would kind of

just get to the point where, you know,

797

:

even if Sal even tried to consider it,

he wouldn't.

798

:

It wouldn't happen.

799

:

I don't think I think it's it's done.

800

:

Yeah.

801

:

What do you think? All right.

802

:

I was frankly surprised they even talk

to each other at the end of the movie.

803

:

Right. I wasn't expecting that.

804

:

I thought,

805

:

you know, most people think

the movie would have ended with the riot,

806

:

but I forget who

who wrote this in a review.

807

:

But the thing that spike Lee does

is to actually go through the rest of it

808

:

and, like, doesn't just leave it there

because there is the next day.

809

:

But, I just don't think

Mookie would stand for it.

810

:

I don't think Sal would take him back

either.

811

:

Yeah, I think it's just too tragic in

812

:

time for Mookie to move on

and get a new job.

813

:

Maybe if Sal,

814

:

get some money from insurance,

as he implied.

815

:

Or maybe he's set to retire.

816

:

He's getting up there in age,

move off the sunset,

817

:

move back to his neighborhood

and start something over there

818

:

where I think they were from. Bensonhurst?

819

:

Yeah, I don't think so.

820

:

You never know.

821

:

Maybe you fast forward down there years.

822

:

Maybe Sal's.

823

:

Maybe Sal becomes ill.

824

:

His final days.

825

:

Maybe he reaches out to Mookie, or movies

like,

826

:

shows up for his funeral

or something like that.

827

:

You know, I could see something like that,

but I don't think they'd have

828

:

any type of relationship.

829

:

Yeah, I agree.

830

:

Yeah.

831

:

I mean, they worked together

for over two years,

832

:

but again, it's a hostile environment.

833

:

It's not you know, it was kind of like a

834

:

it was a sort of a father son

relationship.

835

:

Super dysfunctional though.

836

:

Yes. Yeah.

837

:

Yeah. Yeah.

838

:

Super dysfunctional and

839

:

other things that want to point out.

840

:

Like did you know

there's a lot of like fun trivia here.

841

:

Did you guys know that

the movie was originally called Heat Wave?

842

:

Yeah, it was called Heat Wave.

843

:

And the character smiley

was not originally in the script, was it?

844

:

Roger one ver. Yeah.

845

:

Roger. Roger G. Smith. Roger Smith. Right.

846

:

So I was watching and they were like,

he would just show up at the set like

847

:

every day. And he's tall.

848

:

He was he was kind of

849

:

like saying I telling spike, I want to be

this character, this character.

850

:

He started playing the role and he

convinced him and he was an integral part.

851

:

I mean, he's

the one that for those listening,

852

:

he was the one with

a, you know, this ability.

853

:

And he was starring a lot,

854

:

selling pictures of Malcolm X and Martin

Luther King Jr for a couple bucks.

855

:

He kept bugging people to buy it.

856

:

He got involved in that in the scene,

857

:

the fight scene and the riot.

858

:

He's the one that literally set

the pizzeria on fire.

859

:

He lit the match, and then he ends up

posting up the picture on the wall.

860

:

So it kind of all came full circle.

861

:

But it was interesting

that he was not originally in the script,

862

:

and he became an integral

part of the movie. Yeah.

863

:

Yeah, I also like that

864

:

spike Lee's actual

sister was while Lee plays Jade,

865

:

and so that's his actual sister

and you can see the resemblance I like it.

866

:

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah.

867

:

She's playing she's five appearances

in a few of his films.

868

:

Yeah.

869

:

And even more of A Family Affair.

870

:

Spike's father, Bill Lee, did the music.

871

:

like the the score

872

:

for the movie here.

873

:

And then you see a little like,

as we talk about this actors.

874

:

I mean, it's crazy that Samuel L

Jackson was just Sam Jackson at the time,

875

:

and one of the earlier films, the DJ,

he did a great job.

876

:

And, Richard Edson, who plays Vito and I'm

877

:

looking at him, I'm like, where do I know

him from? He's been at a ton of stuff.

878

:

He was in platoon.

879

:

He was in Good Morning, Vietnam.

880

:

The Starsky and Hutch movie remake.

881

:

But what was funny to me is and I'm like,

oh, yeah,

882

:

he was the crazy valet driver

from Ferris Bueller's

883

:

Day Off that took Cameron's

dad's car for a joyride.

884

:

like that's him.

885

:

Yes. That cut scene in that movie

where they steal

886

:

the car like, flying in the air

still makes me laugh.

887

:

Oh, man, that.

888

:

Classic, classic scene right there. Yes.

889

:

And I dug more to Richardson than I did.

890

:

You know, he was the original drummer

for Sonic Youth.

891

:

I didn't know that.

892

:

He was the original drummer for Sonic

Youth, and I'm very musically inclined.

893

:

He's done a lot, a lot

in, in the music industry as well as.

894

:

As much as I listen to his records.

895

:

Anyone knows him. Well. Yeah. It's funny.

896

:

I don't know what point me.

897

:

I don't know if he was there before.

898

:

They, you know,

went a little bit commercial or not,

899

:

but he original drummer about that.

900

:

Yeah.

901

:

You guys, other tidbits,

that you guys came across.

902

:

Yeah.

903

:

So this is the first movie

904

:

that we've reviewed so far that I can tell

that is on the National Film Registry.

905

:

So very important.

906

:

Somehow breaking

two was not on the National Film Registry.

907

:

Just missed.

908

:

Missed it by that much.

909

:

It's an outrageous omission.

910

:

Meant

911

:

to look into why there was at least two

Keith Sweat references.

912

:

Maybe it's just the sweating part of it.

913

:

Maybe that's

because there was a poster of Keith Sweat

914

:

in the radio station, and then,

915

:

maybe it was the corner men

talking about Keith Sweat,

916

:

or someone was talking about Keith

when this movement that.

917

:

must have been about the heat.

918

:

Those, the corny guys, man,

919

:

just have to go off topic,

but the corny guys,

920

:

I just think about that,

I think just made me laugh.

921

:

Right now, I'm thinking about

how many family cookouts that

922

:

I've been to, and I've seen a lot of my,

my my father's cousins,

923

:

similar debates in the corn and the cook.

924

:

And I'm like, wow, that was so,

925

:

so reminiscent of, like, some of those

same conversations that I've heard.

926

:

And like,

those guys just have cracking up.

927

:

Hey, go grab go grab me a cold one

real quick.

928

:

Similarly to go to the cooler

and come back with a cool

929

:

when they finish talking.

930

:

It's funny because it's true.

931

:

Yeah, yeah.

932

:

What else?

933

:

I was in one of these extra scenes.

934

:

There's the one scene where bugging out

gets his Air Jordans run over by the

935

:

the biker.

936

:

The bicyclist.

937

:

Oh, has a Larry Bird jersey on. Right.

938

:

So that's again, again, the black and.

939

:

White.

Right there. Right. Bird versus Jordan.

940

:

And the Celtics

are one of the hated rivals of the Knicks.

941

:

And he's like mean I live here.

942

:

You know they're going back and forth.

943

:

And the guy that played

944

:

that bicyclists

he just lived on the block.

945

:

And he just happened to be coming home.

946

:

And he had a bicycle in his

car. And it kind of worked.

947

:

They did it in one take, too.

948

:

He just rode his bike over, you know?

949

:

I guess they scuffed up the shoe

950

:

and I was like, wow,

that guy was like a natural.

951

:

He even said something.

952

:

There was, I guess an urban myth that

Larry Bird actually gave him that jersey.

953

:

And then spike Lee

was going back and forth on this 20 year

954

:

reunion of the movies.

955

:

Like, no, I gave I gave it from wardrobe,

I gave it a present.

956

:

And he goes, well, crazy enough,

he's like my sister

957

:

dated Larry Bird or something like that.

958

:

And so I thought that he gave it to me.

I'm like, what? What is this?

959

:

It was so coincidental.

960

:

It's kind of wild

that that that'll happen.

961

:

It'll just kind of came together and,

962

:

you know, filming the scene

963

:

and there are a lot of extras, obviously,

and they're all from right there and,

964

:

which was a great boon for the, community

there.

965

:

And I was watching they actually throw

a block party one day. Yes.

966

:

They had a big party.

967

:

They were giving out hats and shirts

and do the right thing.

968

:

And, although spike Lee was there

and all the stars were there,

969

:

and it was a really nice thing,

and they had to be extra cautious.

970

:

I mean, there was parts of the earlier

that or, you know, not safe.

971

:

So I said extra security.

972

:

And you know, what's crazy

is there's so much tension in this movie,

973

:

the racial tension, racial tension.

974

:

I saw the one part

that, Richard Edson, who played Vito,

975

:

he said the Nation of Islam

was like security for a good part of this.

976

:

He said, I was saying hello to these guys,

like, every day I could not get a

977

:

I couldn't get a hello.

978

:

They were like so focused the entire the.

979

:

The FOIA, the

980

:

the FOIA, they they're serious

boots of Islam.

981

:

You know, those guys I've seen them

in various instances as well.

982

:

You won't get a smile out of them.

983

:

You know,

they're like military folk, military

984

:

like almost focus.

985

:

Spike Lee hired a lot of black folks

986

:

for a lot of different roles,

different jobs around the film, catering,

987

:

even tried to get all the union folks

to make sure that there were

988

:

a lot of black folks working on the set

and everything like that.

989

:

And John Turturro said there was this

one woman that was a caterer and

990

:

she kept refusing to to, like,

serve him even the glass of water,

991

:

because she kind of thought his character

was like how he was, really was.

992

:

And he had a really convinced her

that no one playing a playing a role. If

993

:

he's that.

994

:

Good of an actor, I mean.

995

:

That's never

he was very convincing in that role,

996

:

but he's definitely not that person.

997

:

And and Roger J.

998

:

Smith said that the role of smiley,

there was a scene in that.

999

:

The big fight, the fight scene

that before radar, he was killed,

:

00:48:30,416 --> 00:48:33,416

he he actually spit on,

:

00:48:34,083 --> 00:48:37,416

and I think it was

it must have been Danny Aiello, son.

:

00:48:37,416 --> 00:48:38,250

That was something

:

00:48:38,250 --> 00:48:41,083

he actually spit on them

and they didn't even know what's coming.

:

00:48:41,083 --> 00:48:42,583

And he goes, that caused a lot of mayhem.

:

00:48:42,583 --> 00:48:46,458

Like he was totally into the character

and he actually spit.

:

00:48:46,458 --> 00:48:47,083

You slow it down.

:

00:48:47,083 --> 00:48:50,333

You see, he literally spit on the guy

and it like, whoa, whoa and all that.

:

00:48:50,416 --> 00:48:53,125

He said that was real fighting.

That was starting to happen. That,

:

00:48:54,833 --> 00:48:55,166

Yeah,

:

00:48:55,166 --> 00:48:58,166

spike Lee was like, oh yeah, yeah,

I remember that.

:

00:48:59,166 --> 00:49:01,083

So yeah, there were

there were some instances

:

00:49:01,083 --> 00:49:03,833

obviously when you have

and literally it was hot.

:

00:49:03,833 --> 00:49:06,000

Amen. They're,

they're filming in the middle of summer.

:

00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,541

Yeah.

:

00:49:07,541 --> 00:49:10,250

And in your, you're in character.

:

00:49:10,250 --> 00:49:12,625

just tensions. So people.

:

00:49:12,625 --> 00:49:15,083

Yeah. People are naturally aggravated

when they're.

:

00:49:15,083 --> 00:49:15,791

Yeah.

:

00:49:15,791 --> 00:49:18,791

When they're hot and, and they get

to a point they're almost overheating.

:

00:49:19,708 --> 00:49:21,083

Yeah.

:

00:49:21,083 --> 00:49:25,208

I read that spike Lee got the inspiration

for this from watching a Twilight Zone

:

00:49:25,208 --> 00:49:29,041

episode

about how the rising heat index or in,

:

00:49:29,291 --> 00:49:32,291

in a story caused more murders.

:

00:49:32,916 --> 00:49:33,958

I saw that too.

:

00:49:33,958 --> 00:49:36,291

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

:

00:49:36,291 --> 00:49:39,541

The statistics prove that on the hotter

days, murder rates go up.

:

00:49:39,916 --> 00:49:42,250

Oh, no, that's definitely

it is definitely I.

:

00:49:42,250 --> 00:49:45,500

Yeah, that's definitely true. Even like.

:

00:49:46,583 --> 00:49:46,916

Watch as.

:

00:49:46,916 --> 00:49:49,916

We're all neighborhood.

But like, you know,

:

00:49:50,458 --> 00:49:52,416

the wintertime is all nice and calm.

:

00:49:52,416 --> 00:49:55,166

I mean, even when it's freezing outside,

you don't see many people.

:

00:49:55,166 --> 00:49:56,541

As soon as it gets hot,

:

00:49:56,541 --> 00:50:00,041

that's when everybody wants to fight or,

you know, whatever.

:

00:50:00,041 --> 00:50:02,875

Yeah. Summertime is always the worst time.

:

00:50:02,875 --> 00:50:05,333

It's so crucial

sometimes to have activities and things

:

00:50:05,333 --> 00:50:08,666

for people to do because they're

frustrated already from being hot.

:

00:50:09,208 --> 00:50:10,041

Yeah.

:

00:50:10,041 --> 00:50:13,708

And even like in the movie,

they were cracking open the the fire

:

00:50:13,708 --> 00:50:15,208

hydrant to cool off.

:

00:50:15,208 --> 00:50:16,333

You know, I've seen them in my,

:

00:50:16,333 --> 00:50:19,333

my cousin's neighborhood in Jersey city

this dude, all the time.

:

00:50:19,458 --> 00:50:22,708

But he told the police, you know,

I mean, of course they're they're doing

:

00:50:22,708 --> 00:50:23,458

what they're supposed to do.

:

00:50:23,458 --> 00:50:26,791

Their job is to make sure that they're

not playing with the hydrogen like it,

:

00:50:26,791 --> 00:50:27,416

shut it off.

:

00:50:27,416 --> 00:50:30,333

But you know that was one thing

that they would try to do to keep cool.

:

00:50:30,333 --> 00:50:33,000

But to do it.

:

00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,125

Yeah. Right.

:

00:50:37,583 --> 00:50:40,916

To do it.

:

00:50:41,916 --> 00:50:44,583

So overall,

I mean, did you enjoy the music.

:

00:50:44,583 --> 00:50:48,208

And primarily it was really a lot of fight

to power like over and over again.

:

00:50:48,208 --> 00:50:51,583

But any other music catch your ear?

:

00:50:52,791 --> 00:50:57,250

I mean, like I know the score itself

has a lot of jazzy type

:

00:50:57,250 --> 00:51:01,583

undertones to them,

so I always like how spike scores

:

00:51:01,583 --> 00:51:06,750

with the jazz jazzy undertones,

so it's very soothing and relaxing.

:

00:51:07,166 --> 00:51:10,166

There was a reggae song, something like

:

00:51:10,625 --> 00:51:13,625

You Can't Stand the Heat

when they were showing.

:

00:51:13,791 --> 00:51:16,875

I think Rosie

putting your face in the water

:

00:51:16,875 --> 00:51:19,875

and yeah.

:

00:51:20,250 --> 00:51:21,333

There's something from Guy,

:

00:51:21,333 --> 00:51:24,333

there's something from, yes.

:

00:51:24,750 --> 00:51:26,416

and so the play were good.

:

00:51:26,416 --> 00:51:26,583

Yeah.

:

00:51:26,583 --> 00:51:27,833

There was good soundtrack.

:

00:51:27,833 --> 00:51:30,833

You know,

they did bring in Branford Marsalis to do.

:

00:51:30,833 --> 00:51:33,291

Yeah. Some of the music as well. Yeah.

:

00:51:33,291 --> 00:51:34,708

That's my man right there.

:

00:51:37,208 --> 00:51:38,333

So what were some of

:

00:51:38,333 --> 00:51:41,333

the things that you guys maybe disliked?

:

00:51:41,375 --> 00:51:44,000

I know that

we kind of hinted on a few things.

:

00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:44,750

You know? Diana, right?

:

00:51:44,750 --> 00:51:47,916

You said something about like,

just radio ratings character in general.

:

00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:48,958

Yeah.

:

00:51:48,958 --> 00:51:52,708

but aside from that,

this is something I read about

:

00:51:52,916 --> 00:51:54,041

and some of the reviews

:

00:51:54,041 --> 00:51:57,041

that Rosie Perez was very uncomfortable

doing that nude scene.

:

00:51:57,250 --> 00:52:00,791

And so she felt kind of exploitative and

:

00:52:01,666 --> 00:52:05,083

other people have had the criticism that

there aren't enough women in this story,

:

00:52:05,083 --> 00:52:06,791

even though other sisters there.

:

00:52:06,791 --> 00:52:08,458

And Jade is part of the story.

:

00:52:08,458 --> 00:52:13,375

And, Tina, as far as the story,

I think I see the point from a filmmaker

:

00:52:13,375 --> 00:52:15,833

is perfective. But,

that was something like.

:

00:52:15,833 --> 00:52:19,708

Yeah, she says that she

they don't show her face in that one scene

:

00:52:19,875 --> 00:52:23,333

with when she's naked

because she's crying in there, and that.

:

00:52:24,291 --> 00:52:26,375

Is that really worth that? Ten.

:

00:52:26,375 --> 00:52:27,458

Right.

:

00:52:27,458 --> 00:52:30,458

You don't need to have your actress

doing this.

:

00:52:30,625 --> 00:52:32,916

Know you can you can do this other ways.

:

00:52:32,916 --> 00:52:37,166

I mean that the Spike Lee's forgotten

more about film than I'll ever know,

:

00:52:37,500 --> 00:52:40,583

but this seems like

that was a little unnecessary.

:

00:52:41,125 --> 00:52:44,125

Yeah. So first we can get a double.

:

00:52:44,125 --> 00:52:45,083

Yeah, yeah.

:

00:52:45,083 --> 00:52:46,041

Or even not even do it.

:

00:52:46,041 --> 00:52:49,541

I mean, we're.

Not do it. Fortuitous. Right?

:

00:52:49,708 --> 00:52:51,083

I mean, like I said, I love the music.

:

00:52:51,083 --> 00:52:52,708

I almost wish

they would have showed a little bit

:

00:52:52,708 --> 00:52:54,291

more of the depth of Public Enemy.

:

00:52:54,291 --> 00:52:56,666

I mean, Fight

the Power was amazing. Anthem.

:

00:52:56,666 --> 00:53:00,208

Maybe they could have put a track

or two on radio or in this box from like,

:

00:53:00,208 --> 00:53:04,250

it Takes a Nation of Millions to hold us

back, something like Bring the Noise or,

:

00:53:05,125 --> 00:53:08,875

you know, one of those songs,

or Countdown to Armageddon or, you know,

:

00:53:09,125 --> 00:53:09,916

something like that.

:

00:53:10,875 --> 00:53:11,208

You know, you

:

00:53:11,208 --> 00:53:15,083

kind of give it a little bit more depth

because it got a little bit tiresome.

:

00:53:15,958 --> 00:53:17,625

just to kind of hear

that over and over again.

:

00:53:17,625 --> 00:53:21,041

I mean, even they did play a different,

a few different like remix cuts with that,

:

00:53:21,041 --> 00:53:24,041

but still like same song like,

:

00:53:24,416 --> 00:53:25,666

like Radio Raheem at the casino.

:

00:53:25,666 --> 00:53:28,666

All of that was it?

:

00:53:29,708 --> 00:53:32,708

Yeah, the one tape, but for real.

:

00:53:32,750 --> 00:53:35,333

So I got it like that.

:

00:53:35,333 --> 00:53:38,333

The scene

with, amid going off on to the mayor

:

00:53:38,375 --> 00:53:41,750

like, just flat out cussing them out.

:

00:53:42,250 --> 00:53:45,958

You're a drunk, Carson, you know, and I'm

like, I mean, and I know what happens.

:

00:53:45,958 --> 00:53:49,500

But again, I guess it's just

people riled up with emotions. But

:

00:53:50,875 --> 00:53:53,125

yeah, I was uncomfortable for me to see

:

00:53:53,125 --> 00:53:57,291

along with Raheem,

like you said, Boogie with, you know, way

:

00:53:57,291 --> 00:54:00,500

he spoke to the Korean convenience store

folks, right?

:

00:54:01,041 --> 00:54:01,291

Yeah.

:

00:54:01,291 --> 00:54:05,208

I think like a hint of this

when we're talking pre-recording.

:

00:54:05,208 --> 00:54:08,250

Like, I think it's

not even necessarily my dislike, but

:

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I think that one thing about the movie

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is the language is very harsh.

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So it kind of limits the audience.

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you have

to really go into it with an open mind,

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because if you don't, you know,

some of the language might turn you off.

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You might miss the message of what,

you know, spike was trying to convey.

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Like I said, it's not necessarily

a dislike.

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It's more so,

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an observation per se, but

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he definitely, kept it raw.

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Yeah.

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There was the one scene

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where they're they're

just throwing out every racial epithet

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that could be derogatory

towards blacks, towards Italians,

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coupled towards Koreans, towards Jews.

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It was just like throwing it all out there

and you're taken aback by it.

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And, we discussed a little bit

pre-recording

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to where at first you're like,

how do I react to that?

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It's just so mind blowing.

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But I guess spike

Lee has a way of like I said, it's

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kind of like elephant in the room, people

calling all these nasty things.

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People use it in the vernacular.

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Unfortunately, and

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throw it out there on the table.

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You know, these are names.

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This is this is what you guys are saying

is what you're saying.

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And then

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words have, consequences

and they're hurtful.

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Right? So yeah.

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Yeah, it kind of goes back to like it was

one of the things that we mentioned,

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we were talking about, Star Wars,

we talked about Star Wars.

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We were talking about

how in the, in the community, you know,

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you have a bit of everybody there

and they're all in the same environment.

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Everybody's kind of dealing with

the same struggle, the same situation.

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And then compounded with the heat

wave on top of it.

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But you're all there together.

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You're not going anywhere.

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There's no escaping to go out of it.

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So you're all there together.

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So you kind of have to figure out

how to deal with one another.

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You know,

it's just like, this is a community, like,

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can't put one against the other

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when you're all basically

the same situation, you're all there.

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You all have to deal with the heat.

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Exactly.

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You know each other.

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Everybody needs some ice cubes.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Three.

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Three.

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Three.

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Three.

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I guess it's time now

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to wrap it up and, do our regular reading.

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And I think it's a no no brainer here,

but go round the around the room here,

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bring that funky flick back,

bring that something, flick back

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or leave it in the vault.

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What do you say, Boogie?

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Bring that funky flick back.

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Very poignant, very relevant.

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You can make this today.

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Same situation exist

in that movie that exist in right now.

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So by all means,

bring that funky flick back down.

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All right.

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Bring that funky flick back.

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It could have been made yesterday.

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Yeah.

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It's so relevant and fresh

now as it was in:

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Not all this is a good thing.

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Yeah.

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Still dealing with this

these these racial tensions and.

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And all that. Yeah.

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definitely bring that funky flick back.

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It's a it's all time classic.

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It's very thought provoking.

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It's poignant, relevant.

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00:57:32,583 --> 00:57:37,333

And again, I don't think it should be

like required watching for a lot of folks.

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Yeah.

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Because again it brings brings

these topics out to the table.

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Deep seated racism and the,

unfortunate consequences it can have.

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Did you mention on recording

that you had Ethan watch this with you?

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Yeah, yeah.

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So my son did watch it with me.

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He's 17 and kind of the boogies point.

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It's like, unfortunately, like,

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you got to wait till a certain age

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00:57:58,500 --> 00:58:01,375

because to hear that language

and see some of that.

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But yeah,

he thought it was an excellent movie.

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And, we've been

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we've been talking about it for a few days

now since then,

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I because I, I kind of just question

what do you think about this.

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We like kind of the debate topics we have

and we've be going back and forth

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00:58:16,166 --> 00:58:18,083

like I'm asking him,

do you think Sal was racist?

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00:58:18,083 --> 00:58:19,416

And he kind of wavered back and forth

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00:58:20,583 --> 00:58:21,875

and he's like, no, I don't think so.

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00:58:21,875 --> 00:58:23,458

And I'm like, well, what about this?

What about that?

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00:58:23,458 --> 00:58:26,916

And know kind of make him think, yeah,

you know what he really was?

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00:58:27,125 --> 00:58:28,458

Where does Pino get it from?

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You know, stuff like that.

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00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,791

What you know,

we went through a different topic.

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So to the point

where my wife's kind of get

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00:58:34,958 --> 00:58:37,583

tired of hearing about the movie a lot.

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00:58:37,583 --> 00:58:38,041

This movie.

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Oh, yes, we are, because.

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yeah, they spike.

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Spike's a genius.

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00:58:45,416 --> 00:58:47,833

he did an amazing job.

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Yeah.

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It's amazing.

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00:58:49,375 --> 00:58:50,791

32 it he made this film.

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00:58:50,791 --> 00:58:53,250

His third film when I was 32.

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Wasn't making anything for it.

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Yeah,

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00:58:56,875 --> 00:58:59,541

he used a lot of the same cast, some

school days, which he had done just prior.

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00:58:59,541 --> 00:59:02,750

Ossie Davis was in that

a lot of other guys were in that as well.

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00:59:03,166 --> 00:59:06,333

It was

it was getting Big Brother all my it,

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00:59:08,166 --> 00:59:09,583

which is actually my name and

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00:59:09,583 --> 00:59:12,583

which is actually what Siri calls me on

my phone.

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Was spike said.

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That they have to cut it.

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00:59:19,708 --> 00:59:23,916

They film school days, I think down

in Atlanta much more laid back filming it.

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00:59:23,916 --> 00:59:26,500

And they said, doing this in Bed-Stuy,

they had to really be

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on point on the garden

because you never know.

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00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,416

There were some people

that come on the set

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00:59:30,416 --> 00:59:32,583

and they had to really vet them out.

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00:59:32,583 --> 00:59:34,791

Like, are you are you really an extra?

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00:59:34,791 --> 00:59:36,250

So people,

everybody wanted a piece of this

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00:59:36,250 --> 00:59:39,250

and then you don't know

if it's a underbelly of,

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00:59:39,958 --> 00:59:42,125

undesirable element,

just trying to get in there

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00:59:42,125 --> 00:59:44,708

or trying to get close to spike Lee.

And it's like, well, wait a second.

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00:59:44,708 --> 00:59:47,708

They had to have some pretty

tight security, right there in Brooklyn.

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Absolutely. No.

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Yeah.

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00:59:49,708 --> 00:59:53,166

It was amazing that they did it right

there, right in the street. So

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00:59:53,166 --> 00:59:56,416

some folks are complaining that some parks

were closed and stuff like that.

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00:59:57,458 --> 00:59:58,125

It's budget was

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$6 million and it did 37.3 million.

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01:00:02,083 --> 01:00:04,125

So we're profitable.

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01:00:04,125 --> 01:00:06,416

It did really well. Yeah.

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01:00:06,416 --> 01:00:09,416

It it blew the box office open

when it dropped.

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01:00:09,958 --> 01:00:12,625

And everybody was talking about it.

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01:00:12,625 --> 01:00:15,125

Everybody,

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01:00:15,125 --> 01:00:17,666

you know, not many commercial films

are this thought provoking

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01:00:17,666 --> 01:00:22,041

and this relevant

and vital to the public discourse.

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01:00:23,166 --> 01:00:25,791

So shout out to spike Lee.

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01:00:25,791 --> 01:00:26,875

Yeah.

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01:00:26,875 --> 01:00:29,625

And I think once the, the

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01:00:29,625 --> 01:00:31,291

was Public Enemy

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01:00:31,291 --> 01:00:34,291

dropped the video like the power.

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01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:38,125

It really took off.

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01:00:38,125 --> 01:00:40,708

Really did really great video too.

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01:00:40,708 --> 01:00:41,833

Yeah.

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01:00:41,833 --> 01:00:42,500

I was super.

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01:00:42,500 --> 01:00:44,625

Everything was revolutionary about it.

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01:00:44,625 --> 01:00:46,500

You haven't seen

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01:00:46,500 --> 01:00:48,541

that type of racism portrayed

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01:00:48,541 --> 01:00:51,541

in the police brutality,

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01:00:51,625 --> 01:00:52,875

you know, Public Enemy song.

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01:00:52,875 --> 01:00:56,208

I mean, flat out

declaring that Elvis and John

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01:00:56,208 --> 01:00:59,750

Wayne were racists,

very controversial at the time.

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01:01:00,083 --> 01:01:02,458

Again, thought provoking. Yeah,

I love the line.

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01:01:02,458 --> 01:01:04,250

Most of my heroes don't appear on

no stamps.

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01:01:04,250 --> 01:01:05,750

I mean, it wasn't.

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01:01:05,750 --> 01:01:08,541

Yeah,

I don't even know at what point in history

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01:01:08,541 --> 01:01:12,583

first black person appeared on the stamp,

but it was way, way overdue.

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01:01:14,291 --> 01:01:15,166

I mean, the fact that

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01:01:15,166 --> 01:01:18,750

MLK day didn't start until:

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01:01:19,250 --> 01:01:21,500

Right after heavy petition

petitioning two.

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01:01:21,500 --> 01:01:24,500

As an observed holiday. Yeah. So.

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01:01:24,625 --> 01:01:25,708

Why did it take so long?

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01:01:25,708 --> 01:01:29,083

You know, there's so many, so many things

where black culture is playing catch up.

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01:01:29,791 --> 01:01:32,791

Juneteenth

just finally becoming recognized.

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01:01:33,291 --> 01:01:35,875

Right. Holiday as well.

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01:01:35,875 --> 01:01:39,750

And it's literally existed

since it was abolished.

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01:01:40,125 --> 01:01:43,916

I just really got it, just really got

recognized as a national holiday.

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01:01:43,916 --> 01:01:45,291

Yeah.

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01:01:45,291 --> 01:01:48,666

Even the whole premise about why it was

celebrated is like, wow,

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01:01:50,083 --> 01:01:50,833

you know?

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01:01:50,833 --> 01:01:53,833

Yeah, right. Definitely playing catch up.

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01:01:54,166 --> 01:01:57,375

I just read that spike

Lee directed the videos for The Power.

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01:01:58,583 --> 01:02:00,750

What if I knew that.

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01:02:00,750 --> 01:02:03,750

And Jermaine Dupri was in it?

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01:02:03,833 --> 01:02:05,750

Yeah.

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01:02:05,750 --> 01:02:07,500

And now I have to go

back and look and find him.

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01:02:09,250 --> 01:02:11,250

Yeah, it's a great video.

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01:02:11,250 --> 01:02:12,958

Great video.

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01:02:12,958 --> 01:02:17,583

I think for a for many years, though,

I know they used to do the top

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01:02:17,875 --> 01:02:21,541

hip hop songs of all time and fight

the Powerful.

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01:02:21,541 --> 01:02:24,666

Wow had a stretch

where they would come in at number one,

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01:02:25,791 --> 01:02:29,750

the number one hip hop song of all time,

just because of the

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01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:33,041

the relevancy of the song

and what it stood for at the time.

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01:02:33,041 --> 01:02:36,041

It was just so impactful

to to the culture,

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01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,166

and it would always come in at number one.

:

01:02:39,166 --> 01:02:40,458

I forgot who used to do the count.

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01:02:40,458 --> 01:02:43,375

I don't remember it was MTV or VH one.

:

01:02:43,375 --> 01:02:46,583

The one of them used to do the countdown

and he would always come in at number

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01:02:46,583 --> 01:02:49,958

one is not for, you know, make

you want to get up and really dance.

:

01:02:49,958 --> 01:02:51,833

It's just kind of like, wow.

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01:02:51,833 --> 01:02:53,750

No, you don't want to dance,

you want to march.

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01:02:53,750 --> 01:02:55,750

I don't

this is not a party. In the streets.

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01:02:57,708 --> 01:02:59,458

It's not like can't do none for you, man.

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01:02:59,458 --> 01:03:02,458

If you.

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01:03:10,166 --> 01:03:11,000

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