Episode 64

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Published on:

1st May 2024

HHMC Rewind: Breakin'

May 4, 2024 is the 40th anniversary of the theatrical release of Breakin' - the cult classic breakdance film! Here is an encore presentation of our original episode from 2022.

Also check out:

Rock the Bells: Oral History of Breakin'

Credits

Hip Hop Movie Club is produced by your HHMCs JB, BooGie, and DynoWright. Theme music by BooGie. Follow @hiphopmovieclub on Instagram!

Mentioned in this episode:

HHMC Rewind: Breakin'

Originally released May 11, 2022.

Transcript
Speaker:

Joe Reagan normal.

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Welcome to Hip Hop Movie Club, where three

old heads put their old heads together

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to vibe on some of the most memorable

or forgettable

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hip hop themed movies of all time.

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And here's HHMC with your emcees Boogie.

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JB and DynoWright.

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C'mon! Bring it!

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Welcome to Season one, Episode three.

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Breakin'

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Breakin', also known as "Breakdancing:

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the Movie" was directed by Joel Silberg

with story by Charles Parker

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and Allen DeBevoise.

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The two of them also wrote the screenplay with

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Gerald Scaife. The film stars

Adolfo "Shabba Doo" Quinones as Ozone,

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Michael "Boogaloo Shrimp" Chambers

as Turbo and Lucinda Dickey as Kelly.

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Christopher McDonald and Ice-T

also featured

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in this movie.

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Breakin' is a 1984 movie

in which a young, aspiring

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jazz dancer, Kelly, aims

to elevate her skills to a new level.

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Perhaps into a main profession,

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as well as

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escape her lustful dance

instructor Franco.

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She finds escape and is enlightened

into the world of street dancing, a.k.a.

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breakdancing.

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Upon meeting Ozone and Turbo,

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young stars in this innovative style

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as their friendship blossomed,

so does her skill set.

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She is all in on

promoting the art of breakdancing

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and exorcizing her past

and any haters along the way.

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One

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So what do we like about this film?

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You want to kick us off Boogie?

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Sure.

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Breakin' is one of those movies

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that I grew up watching,

so I always enjoyed watching it.

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This is one of those coming of age movies

where you have people that are trying

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to make a way when they feel like

they don't have a way, and in happenstance

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they come across someone who offers them

hope and a chance

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to kind of take what they're doing

and make the situation better.

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So with that,

I mean, the scenes and the dance battles

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and dancing in the movie is always

something I always enjoyed watching.

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I always tried to emulate that dancing

when I was a kid.

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I used to have my box out out in the

front of the house in my music playing.

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You know, the dancing always was something

that captivated me, you know, Turbo

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and Ozone, the two characters played by

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The late great

Shabba Doo and Boogaloo Shrimp.

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They had a chemistry like a

a Laurel and Hardy

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type chemistry where they fed off

of each other's energy.

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So the scenes with the two of them,

they had a lot of comedic presence

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about the two of them, even when they were

not necessarily trying to be comedic.

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I think it was more so the tone of

the movie, they kept it light hearted

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So even in some of those serious scenes,

they were very comedic.

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So it's always good

to see those two onscreen together.

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The dancing and the lightheartedness

of the movie was something I always enjoy.

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It focuses on breakdancing,

but it's not necessarily

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a lot of rap music in it, although you do

see some cameos of rappers in the movie.

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But the tone of the movie was always

something that I enjoy.

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Donna. Right. Want to add anything?

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So I like that.

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Since we had two New York movies,

we're now on the West Coast

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and actually see what that culture's like

in terms of early hip hop.

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So I enjoyed that. Yeah, I agree.

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It was nice to see the West Coast right

I enjoyed the film.

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I hadn't seen it since I was a kid

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and for some reason, break

into stood out to me more in my memory.

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Maybe because the catchy title, Electric

Boogaloo but I'm glad I rewatched it.

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I would think for all intents

and purposes, breaking really

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for real, put breakdancing

into the mainstream of American conscious.

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Right.

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I think the other films that we reviewed

so far, like a beach street

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while still more like still underground,

still a little bit more raw.

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Now you see children breakdancing,

you see them having a good time with it,

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converting jazz dancers

into break dancers.

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And I remember as a kid

wanting to also emulate ozone

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and Turbo,

we're emulating their moves and all that.

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If I saw this correctly,

the movie had a small budget

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of like 1.2 million, and it garnered

almost $39 million at the box office.

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Back. And,

you know, back then, that's huge.

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Oh, yeah, absolutely.

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Major distributor Golden Globe is,

you know, that's a major distributor

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for films at that time.

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So it definitely pushed it

to the forefront, as you say.

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And it kicks off right away.

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You see the fashion moonwalk, right?

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And the opening scenes and

there was a little dude there, not Turbo,

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but a real little dude who was like, well,

this is their hot shot.

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But that's what it

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appears on both breaking

and breaking to me.

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Both of them. Were so impressive, right?

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The term pop in and lock in is used.

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That's the first time I had heard that.

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And there are some like epic scenes

in the Turbos Broom dance scene

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where he's dancing alongside the broom

outside the convenience store where

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he knows own work.

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And it's almost like a magic trick.

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He's, like, controlling the broom

and dancing around it.

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And that was that was pretty sweet.

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Yeah. That's a classic scene right there.

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Anybody that you know knows break

and remembers that scene.

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And they always point that scene out

when they were in a store.

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And Orson Welles was they refer to him

as Fred Astaire, and he's like,

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Who And then he goes outside his door

and he has a Fred Astaire moment.

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Yeah.

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I mean, not to get ahead on breaking two,

but I think, you know, when Reagan two

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is the one where the you know,

he dances on this on the side of the walls

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and on the ceilings.

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And so that and that they emulated

some Fred Astaire with that also.

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So they tried to bring some classic there

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culture really was shown

and the Ozone Dubs

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Kelly special k, you know that's a

you know people monikers and nicknames

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and I like that there was a storyline

in that you could understand.

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Yeah.

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Like I mentioned in the synopsis, Kelly's

dance instructor was a creep.

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Very lustful. Right.

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Tried to advance on her with a kiss,

and she's she wants none of it.

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And, you know, she runs away.

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And it's a theme throughout.

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Even the agent that she taught

agent is a shady character

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where it's almost like

he wants to be a love interest for. Her.

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And she just wants to advance her career.

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So you see a lot of that

and that agent James James Wilcox,

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I think it was was played

by McDonald was the name Chris.

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Chris, Chris.

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McDonald.

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Chris Chris McDonald, who played

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Shooter McGavin is part I remember him

most for and Happy Gilmore film.

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I saw him with the like curlier hair

and I'm like, that's shoot him again.

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And so that. Was kind of fun.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I remember him from all this, too.

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Please remember.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. He's been with a lot of stuff.

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Yeah, he's he's had extensive career.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Into some TV shows and whatnot, right?

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Yeah, there was some,

there were some funny scenes.

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There was a one scene also.

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They were having lunch and there was these

redneck guys maybe demonstrate

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throwing a quarter at them.

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And then Turbo, you know, love Turbo's

Moxie standing up to the people.

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And you'll see that throughout.

That's the series, right?

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And he just stands up comes water.

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And the guy, the barroom brawl ensues

and they end up escaping

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and they're beating each other up.

So that was kind of silly.

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I like that.

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Yeah.

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There's a lot of can't be fun in

this movie, which I enjoyed

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it. Just the whole leotard thing within

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the eighties is nostalgic and fun for you.

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You don't really see that anymore

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unless you're like on purpose

trying to be retro or vintage.

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But of.

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Funny to see that leotard and leg warmers

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as contrasted with like all the leather

studded leather belts and bracelets

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and things that I forgot that

whole part of the whole early hip hop.

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Scene.

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And the big.

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Dangling earrings would.

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Think dangling earrings.

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I was drawing connections

to like the punk scene with like that

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had leather belts and stuff.

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Absolutely.

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There's there's some kindred spirit

happening between early hip hop and.

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Oh yeah. At that time with punk.

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I had a moment.

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Yeah. I mean, these are all outside.

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You're against the norm. Right?

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Nobody has seen

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this style of Dance Street, and they're

both kind of like street cultures, right?

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Yeah. Yeah. Subcultures and

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ahead of their time.

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Sure.

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Also thought you saw

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the battle

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between ozone and turbo and electro rock.

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Oh, yeah, true. Right.

So there's electro rock crew.

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That's they're the rivals

so you see them bump heads a few times.

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Was interesting.

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Yeah.

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I liked I always like the presence

of the electoral rock guys, man.

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One of my favorite pop lockers is actually

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one of the electoral electoral rock,

Bruno Falcon.

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He's a very well known West Coast

pop laugher.

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Even if you you know Google his name.

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I remember maybe, maybe a year or so ago,

there's videos circulating

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on Facebook with him pop locking,

and he's got like long gray hair.

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Yeah. Still going at it.

You know, doing it.

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Yeah.

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Still doing it.

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It was some classic songs as well.

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Like you mentioned Boogie.

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There was not real like true

hip hop in this.

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A lot of beats, but also but there was

the classic there's no stopping us

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early on, Molly and Jerry.

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Mm hmm. Classic.

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Right. In the opening.

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And that kind of sets the tone.

I like that.

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There was another Chaka Khan song later on

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and not recalling it right now or anybody.

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Yeah, I know, but here we go.

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You know? But it's the exact great, right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that was when

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there was some little romantic interludes

kind of between Kelly and Ozone, right?

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That's. You see that song? Come on. The

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classic song right there, or.

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I love that song.

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Yeah.

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Although I had the name slipped my mind

for a second, too.

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Yeah.

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That's why I was like, the

the contrast between terminals.

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Kind of like a street dance and culture.

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And, you know, they come at a high class

party at the end and they show up.

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There was a funny line with Turbo,

who just is the more comedic one,

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as you said, and there's a type of cheese

that he never saw.

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Oh, you you say you said something like,

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would you like this pig cheese

or something?

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Yeah.

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He's the cheese.

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Big cheese.

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Pizza, single woman. Awesome. Pig cheese.

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Yeah. Yeah,

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see another. One? Cheese.

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Yeah.

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He's charming the older ladies, right?

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But I absolutely loved him.

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Yeah, exactly. He did.

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Yeah.

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There was another.

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So that whole juxtaposition with the

the ultraconservative folks,

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and there's a big contest at the end,

and they're getting denied.

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This is a common theme.

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Kelly

kept getting denied in her own auditions.

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At one point,

she put on a wig to try to look blond.

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That's not what they wanted, right?

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She kept failing.

And then even this bigger contest

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where the creepy Franco instructor was at,

right?

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James, the agent, had a hard time

getting called all this contest.

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Couldn't get them in.

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Finally, you know,

he has them show up in top hats and suits,

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looking all formal

and got them under a fake name.

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Put them a Trojan horse.

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Yeah, he's. Actually a lawsuit, right?

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He called them, like Allegro,

which is a fancy Italian act.

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Right. And he gets them in.

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They start breakdancing and stuff

like that and turning heads,

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and they kind of told, you know,

we don't like your style, whatever,

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these old, decrepit judges and whatnot,

but they still rip

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in the sleeves and just, you know,

continue to dance, don't give up.

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And I like that scene at the end.

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There is a good scene.

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Makes redemption.

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Yeah.

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They broke through in. A.

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Got there there

well deserved shine and they got noticed.

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Right there.

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But nobody wanted to give him a chance

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and they had even seen what they could do

he just went off of pure appearance.

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I don't like the look like,

oh, no, you're not professional.

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But when they sat down and let them do

what they could do, they all enjoyed it.

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Exactly. It was funny.

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The old crusty judge kept saying,

Go away like three or four times.

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Finally, the younger judge was like,

Hold on a second, I want a second.

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And then they finally all came around.

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They were like even dancing on the tables.

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And Franco was trying to get them

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to get the judges to dismiss them,

and they were like, Pull away.

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You ever watch this.

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Frankenstorm sound like the baby?

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That is.

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And then there's a big music video type

feel at the end.

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Again, there's no stopping us.

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Was headlining at the Street Jazz Show.

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You know, towards the end,

they they teased the sequel.

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I remember the closing credits, so we knew

that there was going to be a sequel.

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Oh, you think they voted no right away?

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Yep. This story is true.

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So we report.

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See exactly what? Ice-T.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Very young and spry. Ice-T.

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I mean, he spry now,

but was really like, wow.

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Like, he's back from back then.

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He's from back in the day.

Back in the day.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Now he's on my cereal box

in the back of my Cheerios.

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You see that?

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That's the dance in

the morning with coach Ice-T.

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I'll put that in the stories.

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But I was like, Oh, that's nice.

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T like the body can't get it.

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Like Team Cheerios, cereal Cheerios. Box.

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Are they on

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anyway? Ice-T.

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Yeah.

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Iced teas, rapping,

emceeing the event at the radio Tron Club.

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And, yeah, he's

one of his early performances.

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Absolutely.

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Salute to the OG Ice-T.

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Oh, the one of the funny thing,

too, is the agent, James McGavin.

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You know, he's trying to fit in, right?

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And he's, like, trying

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he doesn't know how to do a handshake

with Turbo, and he wants to be caught.

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He ends up buying them matching jackets

with the initials TCL if you cut that off,

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you'll. Feel.

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Right for each of their initials,

you know, Turbo, Kelly and Ozone.

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And that's what they go buy

an old pickle group.

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I mean.

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He actually liked that being two.

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These fit two was perfect.

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It was. It is a great name.

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Yeah. It's the perfect name for them.

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There was a scene, too.

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I was really impressed by the

by the dancing.

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This was great.

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Introduced the dancing to the mainstream

break dancing

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there was a kid

dancing with crutches at the end.

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If he caught that.

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Oh, yeah, he would.

The president was great.

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That was impressive.

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I mean, upper body strength

for sure. Yeah.

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So overall, I mean.

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He had some cameos in there, too.

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Yeah. It's all about our friend

that was in there.

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Yeah. Go ahead, boogie. Now you got it.

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So so one of the early scenes

when Kelly is

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introduced

to Turbo and Ozone at the beach,

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you see a bunch of these muscle

guys in the background.

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And if you look to the left,

you see Jean-Claude Van Damme

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and that beach scene. In a. Unitary.

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Exact.

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Yeah, we could

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post it on a social media, but it's neat

and it's pans on him for a little bit.

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You could definitely tell him, Oh yeah.

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He's doing that bop that he did

in that movie that he was doing.

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Was was it a Katrina movie? Right now?

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It's a famous movie that he did

the dancing.

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Oh, he's doing the same day as he's

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rocking yes.

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That's funny.

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I just remember Kickboxer was a great one.

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It might have been kickboxing.

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Was it maybe. Kickboxer?

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Yeah, it was Kickboxer.

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Yeah, boxing yeah.

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Kickboxer, you. Know.

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Extensions. Yes.

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He's got one move. I mean, it works.

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It works.

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You talk about the key stars, as you

mentioned, Shabba, do a Adolfo Quinones.

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Yes. Unfortunately, passed away

at the end of 20, 20 at age 65.

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But legendary breakdancer

and you could find him at all

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types of shows and cameos.

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And he was in a lot of music videos like

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Lionel Richie's all night long,

both him and Turbo were in that.

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And Chaka Khan,

I feel for you in those videos.

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Yeah.

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He is a well-established

choreographer and dancer.

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Yeah.

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He did a lot of work

for Madonna of choreography and

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I dug in a little bit more

and I found out that Shabba Do

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was a member of the dance crew,

the original lockers, along with Fred

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Berry, a.k.a Rerun from What's Happening,

one of my favorite shows of all time.

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Me, too.

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Tony Basil Singer from

Hey Mickey and Don Campbell,

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known as Campbell Lock, who is credited

of starting the pop and lock.

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So it's pretty cool. Yeah.

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It's definitely cool.

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And speaking of some coolness,

I came across a documentary

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on Boogaloo Shrimp a few years ago

coming to find out he was the person

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who's credited with teaching

Michael Jackson the moonwalk.

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And I just before we got on, I checked in.

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That documentary is still on.

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It's on Amazon Prime right now.

And it's also on people.

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TV's called The Boogaloo

Shrimp Documentary.

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So if you get a chance,

anyone, you'll check that out.

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It's got a lot of history

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and it talks about how you got started out

and how I started in

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what he's been up to.

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So yeah, that's pretty cool.

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Disney promotion, Boogaloo Shrimp, also.

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Michael Chambers, right?

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Yeah, very well established.

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In those videos I mentioned also.

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And I was also reading,

he played the character

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of Mike Scat Cat and Paula

Abdul's opposites attract.

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Oh man. Yeah.

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He wasn't the rapper,

but they they used his moves.

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And he's got Cat Charlotte FC sketch.

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This cat cat. Underrated emcee.

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Somewhere else.

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And that's a throwback.

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Yeah.

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You know, I looked up Cilla Dickie,

and she she was on solid gold.

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She was a solid gold dancer, solid rock.

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And I don't.

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Know how why I've never known that,

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but she was a solid gold dancer prior

to snagging the role in breaking.

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And I was like, Wow, that's really cool.

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But now, now I want to go back

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and see if I can catch her in

some of the older episodes.

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Yeah, they must be on YouTube.

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We got to go look.

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Yeah, that's right.

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Kids today don't know it's solid

gold, is it?

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Of solid gold?

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Solid gold.

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Now, I used to wash it every Saturday.

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Every Saturday. Exactly.

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Why Soul Train

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late morning, early afternoon.

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After the cartoons are done.

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So Soul

Train comes on right as a solid gold.

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And Cornelius.

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Yeah.

421

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You know, I was watching

one of my favorite actresses.

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She's got a small kid.

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She's got a cameo.

424

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She's actually

in both breaking and breaking, too.

425

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She's a cameo in the opening

credits lead over Shaun.

426

:

I was watching it. I'm like,

Wait a minute.

427

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How come I've never noticed her dancing

in the beginning of the movie?

428

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But she's dancing in the beginning of

the movie, and I'm like, Check that out.

429

:

And you still keep in touch with her.

430

:

Oh, no, I don't know where.

431

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But, you know,

I just like I just like her.

432

:

Her her as an actress.

433

:

Yeah, OK. Awesome.

434

:

That was also saw something about Shabba

do choreograph

435

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the 36 Mafia's performance

on the Academy Awards.

436

:

That. Right.

437

:

That one was that one

for the original song.

438

:

It's hard out here for a pimp.

439

:

Yeah, I choreographed that now.

440

:

Yeah. Nice.

441

:

Yeah,

that's one of the classic Oscar moments.

442

:

Yeah, that was that was groundbreaking.

443

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Very well established.

444

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I mean, these

these guys did so much for the culture

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with great dance,

and that's what we're here about on

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the podcast, is like,

you see people doing all these

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types of dancing,

and this is kind of the origins.

448

:

So it's neat for the young folks out there

to kind of see where it started.

449

:

Yeah. I mean, break is now international.

450

:

You know, you got the Red

Bull Championships, and I love watching.

451

:

I watch those

every time I catch clips of them anywhere

452

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and, you know, things

that they're able to do now.

453

:

It's it's amazing.

454

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But it all ties back to,

you know, what we're talking about

455

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in the last couple of podcasts.

456

:

So, you know, it definitely blossom

in Rome and they see it's international.

457

:

It's a way of life. It's a culture.

458

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It's cool. Very cool. Yeah.

459

:

Yeah,

460

:

yeah.

461

:

To boogie boogie.

462

:

You owned the vinyl.

463

:

Is that what you were talking about

last time?

464

:

We're showing us recently.

465

:

There it is.

466

:

Got the vinyl with the plastic on it

still.

467

:

Oh, yeah.

468

:

I still. Got a sticker from The Wiz.

469

:

In. Reverse.

470

:

How much does that? 699.

471

:

Oh, what a deal.

472

:

Yeah. I love this, man.

473

:

This is. This is.

474

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Yeah.

475

:

It's real.

476

:

Ali and Jerry on their right.

477

:

It's them. See what's on here.

478

:

Yeah.

479

:

There's no stopping this

freak show on the dance floor.

480

:

Body work. 99 and a half.

481

:

Maybe not even half is a good song. Too

good song.

482

:

Yeah.

483

:

The Showdown Heart of the Beat Street

people, which they perform at the end.

484

:

Right.

485

:

Cut it.

486

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Ain't nobody and reckless with

I only thing

487

:

I wish you would have had,

but it probably was a lot of improvising.

488

:

I wish I would have had my team stuff.

489

:

But yeah, that stuff

was probably improvised on the spot.

490

:

It probably wasn't even a studio record.

491

:

It probably was probably just freestyling.

492

:

Yeah.

493

:

I may have had the vinyl.

494

:

I can't recall now,

but I don't have it any longer.

495

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Nice to have you out there listening.

496

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Let us know if you

if you did that on the spot on the day

497

:

at final level, you hit us up.

498

:

Through

499

:

I'm. Curious. Now

500

:

I wonder if you could find those lyrics

anywhere else other than in the film.

501

:

I am saying let's figure it out.

502

:

A listener,

if you if you know this already hit us up.

503

:

Absolutely.

504

:

Yeah.

505

:

I'm always curious

to do to tag them in asking.

506

:

Him. Out. He came.

507

:

I did come up with it.

508

:

Is he definitely response to the fans?

509

:

I hit his up

510

:

three.

511

:

Three, three, three.

512

:

You think this movie could be made today?

513

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Either in this state

514

:

like remade and preserved

like this, or a remake of it somehow.

515

:

What do you think?

516

:

I think so.

517

:

Same thing I said earlier. With.

518

:

Speed Street,

they make it as like a period piece.

519

:

I think it'd be really cool

520

:

to see a place in modern

filmmaking techniques, 4K and all this.

521

:

But I think as a remake of the time,

I think it could be done.

522

:

Yeah, I'd have to agree with Daniel

right on that one, I think.

523

:

And I was waiting for him to say

524

:

and he said exactly what I thought

you were going to say,

525

:

you know, just kind of use it as a period

piece with using some modern techniques

526

:

I totally agree.

527

:

I think that's what would make it possible

to have it redone.

528

:

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

529

:

Preserve it as it is.

530

:

Don't try to do anything more with it now.

531

:

I really enjoyed it.

532

:

So as we do at the end of each episode,

let's give our A rating, our take on that.

533

:

So the question is bring that funky flick

back,

534

:

bring that funky flick back

or leave it in the vault

535

:

boogie.

536

:

Oh, man,

I got to bring that funky flick back.

537

:

This is just the classic.

538

:

Even with some of the

some of the cheesy eighties references

539

:

and things like that,

you can't now bring it back.

540

:

Got to bring it back.

541

:

I know. Right, right.

542

:

That's funky flick back.

543

:

It's not Hamlet or King Lear,

but it's really fun.

544

:

It's just so much fun.

545

:

I agree. Bring that funky flick back.

546

:

I really enjoyed it.

547

:

We take us out.

548

:

Yeah, take it out.

549

:

Left, right. This

550

:

frigging Global.

551

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About the Podcast

Hip Hop Movie Club
Harmonizing the rhythm of hip hop with the magic of movies
Upcoming Hip Hop Movie Club events:
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