BONUS: Our full Entergalactic discussion
You heard our short take on Entergalactic—here’s the extended bonus cut. We get deeper into Kid Cudi’s world-building, the film’s NYC authenticity, the design influence of the late, great Virgil Abloh, music references, and why Meadow’s ending sparked a real gripe.
Also check out:
➡️ "Analysing the Art of Entergalactic" by Daniel Ang
➡️ "The Making of: Entergalactic" by Netflix
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Transcript
She has to leave her own exhibit just to meet up with him.
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:It's romantic on the surface, but there’s an imbalance.
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:On today's episode of Hip Hop Movie Club,
So
we're gonna dive into the twenty
twenty-two animated film Entergalactic,
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:starring Kid Cudi Timothee Chalamet,
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:and several others, as it takes us through
~ the journey
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:of Cudi's character Jabari as he moves
into a new apartment,
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:settles into New York City, how his life
his love life evolves.
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:So
right off the top here, I enjoyed this
quite a bit.
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:The animation was really good.
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:Kinda gave me that Spider-Man into the
Spider-Verse vibes,
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:like the same style of animation.
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:Great story, very relatable. I like that
they broke it up into different chapters.
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:It kind of kept me even more focused and
entertained about what's coming up next.
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:Really good romantic comedy.
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:I love how he weaves in Mr. Rager as a
character.
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:Mr. Rager is one of Cudi's biggest hits
from a a prior album and
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:how that becomes his tag and the object of
his creativity throughout the film.
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:So yeah, really, really enjoyed this film.
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:I'm glad that we we were able to watch it.
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:Yeah, this this one right here,
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:like I've told you guys before we started
recording,
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:this one has been sitting in my to watch
list ever since it hit hit Netflix,
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:and I just haven't gotten around to it.
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:But what really got me was like,
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:as you s as you said, JB, the first thing
I noticed when I saw the trailer
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:for it was that the animation reminded me
from ~ Spider-Man to the Spider-Verse.
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:That was the first thing that stood out
for me,
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:and I immediately let the trailer play for
a little while and I added it right
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:to my list, like, yeah, I'm gonna watch
this.
Yeah.
But I never got around to it.
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:~ so shout out to Ice Berg for
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:putting this back on my radar so we can watch it.
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:I thoroughly enjoyed it.
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:I'm a rom com fan. I like I love rom coms.
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:The cheesier the better. But this one
Ha ha ha.
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:wasn't really cheesy. This one was highly
relatable.
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:Like I related to this one a lot.
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:a new guy moving into a new neighborhood,
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:trying to navigate, got a nice,
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:job with a bright future ahead of him that
that could potentially lead
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:to something really, really big.
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:And trying to figure out how to balance
that with feelings that he's starting
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:to develop for somebody unexpectedly and
how to,
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:figure out, do I tell her? Do I know do I
hold back?
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:Is it too soon? She lives next
door to me,
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:like she's my neighbor. That's gonna be
really weird.
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:And just like, that whole scenario,
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:just how it played out was very,
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:very relatable, and I really enjoyed this
one.
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:it had a lot of hip hip hop in it.
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:The music, the soundtrack was great.
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:I didn't even try to look at the titles
of the songs,
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:I was just vibing. Like it was just it was
Yeah,
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, Cudi I mean Cudi did the whole
album.
it was just a good vibe.
Yeah. And I love
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:his style is different and I am you know,
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:like you guys, I'm more of a hip hop
traditionalist,
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:but Cudi kind of broke that barrier with
me in terms of the more
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:emo type music and
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:I really enjoy lot of his the The Man on
the Moon album is
Mm-hmm.
just terrific. There's so many good songs
on there.
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:The Mr. Rager song, the Man on Moon song,
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:so many others, Day and Night.
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:I have that on continuous play.
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:I like that he weaved in again Mr.
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:Rager as an element.
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:I used to have a list of my favorite
album covers every year
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:and in 2009 when Man on the
Moon: End of Day came out,
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:it was one of my favorites. it just had a
really cool similar colors
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:to what's happening in EnterGalactic It's
a lot of purples and oranges.
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:I always loved it since then.
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:And so it was cool to watch this film,
which is a companion piece to
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:the album of the same name that released
on the same day and
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:I really appreciated this it's a it's a
risk to do something this bold.
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:Even for someone as established as Cudi.
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:And it's such a rich and colorful film.
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:Some may consider his music
not so colorful or bright.
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:If you talk about emo rap,
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:if you wanna call it that.
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:But to do this, to
This
do a feature length
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:on top of an album. Even good kid M.A.A.D. city
was a short film.
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:Cudi went big and it paid off.
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:I really appreciated that. Like it's it's
this is hard to do.
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:I'm so glad you guys enjoyed it also.
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:And it's funny, like you said,
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:the story of him being smitten by the new
girl in the apartment,
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:but then running into the ex and the
complications of the ex,
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:the ex being a little bit needy and a
little bit off kilter.
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:Very interesting and the dynamic with at
work,
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:with his coworker. And I like that there's
some messaging behind it too.
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:Like digital versus analog dating.
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:Like you see that Stush
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:throughout all advertised everywhere.
Stush yeah.
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:Yeah, Stush, And his coworker was all
about it,
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:like swipe left, swipe right, swipe right.
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:And he's just like he's all about he seems
like a bit of an old soul,
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:you know, riding his bike everywhere and
just being authentic.
Right. A BMX bike. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. He's
Yeah.
authentic. He's just wearing his hoodie
everywhere and jeans and doing
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:his own thing. And it's more the meet cute
type
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:I'm not into this app.
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:I'm just trying to go go out there,
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:do my own thing and have things happen
organically.
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:And that that his love interest
Yeah.
meadow, you know, becomes a great match
for him.
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:It's an interesting statement on
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:digital versus real life. ~
Yeah. Right.
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:to meet your match on an online dating platform.
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:I feel like this kind of message would have hit harder
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:in the beginning of the internet, at least as we know it. So it was kind of an odd
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:a reaction to all the digital aspects of our lives.
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:So I thought that's an interesting
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:way to say this. ~ in a bright and obviously digital production,
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:the themes are ~ meeting people
in real life,
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:having experiences in real life,
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:riding your bike through the city.
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:that might be the most way to connect to
people almost.
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:You could ride the bus and be amongst people or be on the subway amongst people
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:There’s something
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:dangerous, literally dangerous,
about riding your bike in the middle of the city.
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:And it's more like connected to life.
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:Then you can easily like tune out people
on the subway.
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:It's an interesting idea to to put forth.
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:the whole idea of the BMX was
was something that I was very
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:popped right out to me because I I I
still have a BMX in my basement,
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:~ stunt pegs and all. And like I used
Ha ha.
to ride all over the daggone City on my
bike and,
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:It was a rite of passage.
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:Like everybody on my block had a bike.
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:And if you didn't have a
Mm-hmm.
bike, we would find parts and build you a
bike.
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:So we all had bikes.
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:It's like wow, a throwback to my childhood.
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:it was so authentic. Everything,
it was so New York,
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:like everything was very authentic.
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:Like
The neighborhood is I'm like, wow,
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:I I know exact I can figure out where they
are like watching it.
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:I'm like, I know where that is.
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:It was very stylish and it was very like it was very relatable.
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:Not to keep using that word,
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:but
Yeah.
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:I like the subtle word play that
they use too like he had that shirt that
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:said “Closure” throughout. And I'm like,
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:well that's fitting. I'm just thinking
that that and then obviously
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:that text just like stays on the
screen when he finally gets closure with
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:his ex Carmen. And even the ex there when
the FedEx
Yeah.
machine and the word ex like is when he
first meets bumps into her
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:at the restaurant towards the beginning.
Yeah. I wanna know how much money was
transacted for that.
The FedEx, you know,
I was like it's so obvious.
Ha ha ha.
like the product placement.
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:Yeah, right, exactly. That's a good one.
Yeah, like it's I know it's part of the film
Yeah like
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:You couldn't go through New York without seeing one FedEx truck,
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:one on every block.
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:But
Right.
Yeah.
it was still kinda funny to see in the
film.
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:McDonald's as well.
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:Yeah.
yeah.
And he said America's second favorite
burger because the the greasy spoon
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:was the secret spot with the delicious
burger.
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:I liked that part. That was charming.
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:I liked the the chapter five's called It
Was Yellow and it was like because Meadow’s
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:thumbs up emoji. Was it her skin color?
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:No, it was yellow. I was ~ okay.
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:She's not really into this. She was ticked
off because the ex Carmen had sent
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:a sexy type photo over and she saw
Yeah.
it on the nightstand. And obviously that
bothered her to no end,
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:but it was funny because
Yeah, there there has to be
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:some kind of conflict in a rom com and
here it is.
Exactly. Yeah.
You know, as as
Yeah. Yep.
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:kind of a trope it is, it was kinda
handled in a way that one is relatable,
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:people see each other's
phones and they see s of course they
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:see something they shouldn't see.
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:Right. The unsolicited sexy photo.
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:It fits perfectly. Like, ~ okay.
huh. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
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:Yeah. That's some rough timing.
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:Yeah. I
Yeah.
mean, but there was that
Yeah.
sexual interactions, you know,
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:with him and Meadow were like so
physically intertwined and that animal
attraction,
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:like they really longed for each other and
obviously connected physically.
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:I like that
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:they're both into art, for their
profession.
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:And it was awesome that she used his photo
in her,
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:Her show, her art show, like his photo.
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:And then you're wondering, like,
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:is she gonna still use it? She's still
upset?
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:Is he gonna show up? So it's a little bit
of drama there.
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:Yeah.
Towards the end. I thought it was well
done.
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:Yes, like they were both as the you know,
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:they hit that little bit of a conflict and
they were trying to figure out,
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:how to deal with one
another and still have to deal with their
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:their professional lives at
the same time.
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:He's trying to get his proposal ready to
present to the comic company
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:and she's trying to prepare the art show,
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:and also trying to work with with her
friend,
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:~ Reed, to get some of her photos
purchased.
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:So she's like trying to trying to focus on
that at the same time.
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:It's like, wow
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:It's funny you were saying this
was on your radar,
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:Boogie. This wasn't even really on my
radar at all.
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:~ until, you know, Ice Berg kinda said,
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:You guys should really watch this,
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:you guys should really watch this.
I watched the trailer a couple of times
and I'm like,
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:Yeah, it was rated highly as well.
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:It was a good choice.
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:Absolutely is great choice, yeah.
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:The animation is just really fun.
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:I watched a couple videos behind the
scenes stuff,
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:~ another YouTube channel that breaks down
some of this more techie stuff,
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:but Cudi really put his ass into it.
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:Yeah. ~
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:Yeah. We'll I'll link to the videos,
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:Star power too.
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:Ty Dollar $ign,
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:Timothee Chalamet, Vanessa Hudgens,
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:Keith David, Jaden Smith, Macaulay Culkin,
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:Teyana Taylor. Even has his sister has a
brief role in it.
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:His actual sister plays his sister
in in it. Myesha Mescudi I'm like, wow, look at
that.
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:Luis Guzman
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:Jessica Williams plays Meadow.
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:Carmen, Laura Harrier’s character,
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:actually looks like her.
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:They really put a lot
of work into the the characters.
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:The late great Virgil Abloh was the
costume designer for this and
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:you see a lot of tributes to him
throughout the film.
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:He passed away before this came out,
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:Real heads, not me. Real heads know Virgil
Abloh.
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:Watch out for that. Look for those Easter eggs ~ throughout the film.
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:he was a legend that
I was not aware of
him really. ~ I'm not that cool.
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:So I only
Yeah no.
heard about him after, after he passed.
Ha ha ha.
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:I dug into his career.
Mm-hmm. Icon.
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:I mean, he did all the Kanye West fashion
stuff as well as many others.
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:And Cudi was close with them.
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:Yeah, I was on the fringe of knowing
him who he was 'cause just because
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:a lot of this stuff that he was putting
out was a little out of my price range.
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:I was aware of him.
Yeah.
Me too. Me as well.
I just c I was just like
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:just like I'm not paying that for that.
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:It looks cool, but
Like that's cool, but I'm not I don't
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:have the dividends for that.
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:Cudi made sure this film
was released on what would have been
Virgil
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:Abloh's birthday as a tribute.
Mm-hmm. Yep.
Yeah.
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:When I hear the word
Entergalactic and I always think
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:of Intergalactic, the Beastie Boys song.
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:So that's always like kind of stuck in my
head.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Yeah.
But then I dove into
like why is he using this term?
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:And there's a lot of celestial themes with
Cudi,
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:as you see with Man in the Moon,
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
and a lot of his videos. He does other
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:There's a lot of space themes.
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:When I was looking up Entergalactic,
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:it's kinda like when you're feeling that
powerful feeling of love kind
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:of lifts you into a new universe.
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:It's literally cosmic, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah,
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:there's a song on his on the Man in the
Moon album called “Enter Galactic”
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:Two words. And ~
Right.
you could trace it back to that.
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:The space theme there.
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:Yeah.
Exactly. Right.
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:Yeah, and he's known to to ~
I have one gripe at this film.
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:And this is a spoiler alert, but in the
great climax at the end of the film,
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:Meadow runs from her great new gallery
show debut
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:to reconcile with Jabari. the stakes is
high for her.
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:Like this is a big deal, this exhibit,
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:this gallery. And Jabari doesn't really
have to sacrifice anything for this.
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:Like he yes, he takes a leap and he makes this grand gesture,
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:Maybe if she was The One and
he didn't pursue her really,
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:then you you lose out on that.
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:She could have gotten away.
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:See you next lifetime, like Erykah
Badu would say. But
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:It's a romantic on the surface,
but there’s an imbalance. She has to
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:leave her own exhibit just to meet up with
him,
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:even though it looks romantic.
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:It’s kind of common that these things happen and we just kinda go with it.
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:The imbalance, the dynamic between
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:men and women.
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:You know, it's a touch patriarchal and we
just sort of not think about
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:it anymore 'cause it just happens
everywhere.
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:And so I was like, mm it kinda ended on a
It's funny you say that.
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:even though they're together and like that
was kind of the point.
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:Yeah, my son Ice Berg, he was watching
it with me as well.
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:He said the very same thing. He's like,
I can't believe she
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:would like leave her own show.
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:Like she's built up to this and like she's
really just leaving her
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:art show like that? Didn't didn't add up for him either.
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:I know Kid Cudi is like the main character of
this film with all the main character
energy.
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:And so this has to come on his terms.
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:But we see it so much. It's like we see it
so much we don't see it anymore.
And so I was like,
mm. And what's up with the Temple
University keychain?
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:Like I was like, whoa, what's what's that?
I saw that.
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:Like cool, like go owls. But I was like,
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:it's the kind of random.
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:It didn't come up afterwards. And I looked
into it.
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:I couldn't find anything really,
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:but anyone listening or watching,
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:tell us what's up with this. May maybe,
I mean maybe somebody involved with the
film went to Temple or has ties,
you know. You know, the internet
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:The bots say that it's
probably just a way to make
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:her look authentic. a New York
photographer,
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:maybe roots in Philly went to temple
probably
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:And just how to make them look real and
I'm fine.
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:But it was very stark, like I know that T
anywhere.
Stark like I know that tea anywhere.
That white T on the red. The cherry and
the white tea on the red. Uh-huh.
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:the white. I know it very well.
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:But it's like, ~ What's up with that?
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:Yeah.
Ha
ha ha.
Yeah, I I pick up on that too.
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:I'm like 'cause I'm like a Philly guy.
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:I'm like, Temple, is this Philly?
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:I'm like, no, it's New York City.
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:But yeah, there's
Yeah.
gotta be some some story behind it.
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:somebody's like, We can't let New York get
all the energy,
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:let's throw that in there.
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:one of my favorite songs is in this movie.
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:~ Minnie Ripperton Inside My Love.
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:Yeah.
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:I was like
I was very excited to hear that song.
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:Yes, I love that song. Yeah, so as soon as
I heard it come on,
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:I was like, my god, Meadow’s playing
my song?
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:I was hoping to hear
Yeah.
the piano break too, but or the electric
piano break,
Yeah.
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:but they didn't go that far. But that it
wouldn't too much fan service for me.
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:I couldn't couldn't handle it.
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:For the listeners, Inside My Love
by Minnie Ripperton is ~ it's
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:got a nice sample that's been ~ used by a
tribe called Quest and also Tupac
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:~ in their in their rhymes, So yeah,
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:that if you you know haven't heard that
song,
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:listen to it. And you'll you'll definitely
hear the part that's sampled
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:if you listen to it.
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:Yeah, you go to “Lyrics to Go” - my favorite
A Tribe Called Quest song
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:of my favorite rap group
Yes.
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:and that electric piano break features
very prominently.
Yes.
So I was very
Yeah.
excited. I was like, I know that album She
put on the record,
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:put it on the record player.
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:Alright, you guys want to go around and
and rate the film here like we usually do?
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:So Boogie for Entergalactic,
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:would you bring that funky flick back or
leave it in the vault?
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:Without a doubt, bring that funky flick back.
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:Right on, Dyno Wright, for
Entergalactic,
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:bring that funky flick back or leave it in
the vault?
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:I am bringing funky flick back.
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:It's unanimous. I will definitely bring
this funky flick back as well.
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:Yeah, this this this is gonna be like my
new background like when
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:when I'm not doing anything, I just want something in the background,
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:this is gonna be my go to right here.
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:Just gonna put it on and just do whatever
I gotta do and just let it vibe
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:in the background. Yeah.
I love the the animation, the art style,
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:the art marker look, so well done.
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:Yeah.
shout out to D Neg ~ on the on the animation design.
I mean, I just love that hip hop
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:is spreading its tentacles to everywhere
like over the years,
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:you know. We already talked about, we saw the film by Chance the Rapper and,
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:Childish Gambino like these are
like EGOT folks,
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:these guys are just so magnificent
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:and talented in so many forms of art.
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:So it it's amazing. I I really have a
great,
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:even more of a greater appreciation for
Kid Cudi and for
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:For this project.
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:Thank you for tuning in to Hip Hop Movie
Club,
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:the show for serious hip-hop fans who want
to deepen their cultural knowledge.
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:I'm Dyno Wright, filmmaker, designer,
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:longtime hip hop fan, and I finally got
around to reading my copy
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:of People's Instinctive Travels and the
Paths of Rhythm 33 1/3
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:book. I'm glad I read that.
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:Nice.
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:I'm JB, eighties and nineties,
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:nostalgia junkie, longtime hip hop fan.
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:And if you remember, the first concert I
took my son to was Kid Cudi in Philly,
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:which was literally a few weeks before
Entergalactic was released.
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:It was around September 9th of 2022.
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:For me personally,
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:I've become a really big fan of Kid Cudi
My son Iceberg introduced me
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:to him years ago. So I just thought that's
a really cool bonding thing that that
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:the two of us have is that he told me all
about Kid Cudi.
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:I introduced him to hip hop and all the
old school,
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:and he introduced me to some of these
younger artists,
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:like Kid Cudi and Tyler the Creator.
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:And ~ I really admire his his work over
the years.
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:Yep.
Dope, dope. And I'm Boogie, a DJ,
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:longtime hip hop fan, and as the time of
this recording,
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:yesterday was August 11th,
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:the 53rd birthday of hip hop.
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:Yes, give it up. DJ Kool Herc,
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:aka Clive Campbell threw a legendary
back to school jam at:
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:Ave in the Bronx, New York, back in
:
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:and the rest, as they say, was history.
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:Mm-hmm.
And remember, don't hate, gesticulate.
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:Move
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:it, move it.
Ha ha ha ha.
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:Nice.
